The Beatles Bible - Topic: Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/ Simple:Press Version 5.2.6 Joe on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/page-2/#p16219 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/page-2/#p16219 a-hard-days-night-ringo-10

Or this article. It was 41 years ago today.

]]> Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:28:43 +0000 Zig on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p16101 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p16101 MeanMrs.Mustard said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

John made rash decisions like this, whereas Paul would always consider all his options in situations.
 

I wouldn't say the decision to return his MBE was rash.

Neither would I. According to what I've read, he actually considered doing it for 2 years before actually going through with it. If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure he gave it to Aunt Mimi and had to retrieve it from her in order to send it back to the queen. If that is true, it sounds premeditated, not rash.

For more on the actual ...]]> Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:06:57 +0000 Marcelo on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p16086 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p16086 What the hell? As far as I can remember, John was doubtful about recieving the MBE, that's for starters.

He accepted it, yes. But remember this: Johnny had a acute authority-phobia (his aunt, every teacher he had, Brian Epstein), so it's no surprise he would return it eventually.

And something he didn't like about his country is the class system, with its titles and honours (I swear that I read about that). It's not a matter of being rational or not.

And he was a peace propagandist, don't forget it. And this in particular wasn't the boldest public campaign he was ...]]> Wed, 24 Nov 2010 05:03:40 +0000 Nicholaevna Romanov on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p16044 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p16044 1. Lying or refusing to answer a risky question is not new, it has been around since old Hollywood circa 1930s and 1940s and Paul, John and all of them have used it. Paul answered the question because he just seemed to be in the mood to answer it; it wasn't wrong or right it is just what is.

2. John giving it back nor Paul keeping his is a bad thing, if John really did return the medal as a protest against war I applaud him. And if Paul wanted to keep his good for him; he is Paul ...]]> Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:00:06 +0000 MeanMrsMustard on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15923 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15923 mr. Sun king coming together said:

John made rash decisions like this, whereas Paul would always consider all his options in situations.
 

I wouldn't say the decision to return his MBE was rash. Even though he included "and against 'Cold Turkey' slipping down the charts" as a reason he turned in his MBE, I'm sure he thought it through and decided he didn't want to be decorated by a country who had policies he opposed. 

And I'm not sure one could really say that Paul "always considers all his options." 

Remember, we shouldn't stereotype Paul or John, or anyone. They're people too. ...]]> Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:33:26 +0000 DoctorRobert on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15899 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15899 Joe said:

That's a 21st century observation though. If you look at some of The Beatles' interviews in the 1960s, beyond the boring press conferences ("When are you getting your hair cut?" etc), they were often quite candid and revealing. Take a look at the Hunter Davies book or Michael Braun's Love Me Do for examples in book form, where they'd freely discuss sex/drugs.

Well, I guess that was the naive, free-spirited attitude of the 60's.

]]> Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:02:37 +0000 Joe on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15845 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15845 That's a 21st century observation though. If you look at some of The Beatles' interviews in the 1960s, beyond the boring press conferences ("When are you getting your hair cut?" etc), they were often quite candid and revealing. Take a look at the Hunter Davies book or Michael Braun's Love Me Do for examples in book form, where they'd freely discuss sex/drugs.

]]> Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:33:25 +0000 DoctorRobert on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15843 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15843 mr. Sun king coming together said:

As the person he is, he felt obligated to answer the question honestly. Just because all others rockers lie, Paul Actually has an ounce of integrity so he honestly answered

I think the majority of the time when a celebrity is asked a slightly risky question by the media, they tend to not answer it.

]]> Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:07:36 +0000 mr. Sun king coming together on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15841 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15841 As the person he is, he felt obligated to answer the question honestly. Just because all others rockers lie, Paul Actually has an ounce of integrity so he honestly answered

]]> Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:01:36 +0000 DoctorRobert on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15840 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15840 mr. Sun king coming together said:

DoctorRobert said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Paul wouldn't do it because he actually uses his brain about decisions 

Um...

 

And John doesn't?

Remember, John's brain works differently from normal peoples' brains. 

John made rash decisions like this whereas Paul would always consider all his options in situations such as it.
 

Such as Paul's decision to tell the media he had taken LSD, despite being the last Beatle to take it? a-hard-days-night-paul-3

 

He was asked a direct question about LSD, and he ...]]> Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:55:42 +0000 mr. Sun king coming together on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15837 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15837 DoctorRobert said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Paul wouldn't do it because he actually uses his brain about decisions 

Um...
 

And John doesn't?

Remember, John's brain works differently from normal peoples' brains. 

John made rash decisions like this whereas Paul would always consider all his options in situations such as it.

 

Such as Paul's decision to tell the media he had taken LSD, despite being the last Beatle to take it? a-hard-days-night-paul-3
 

He was asked a direct question about LSD, and he answered honestly

]]> Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:41:28 +0000 DoctorRobert on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15836 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15836 mr. Sun king coming together said:

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Paul wouldn't do it because he actually uses his brain about decisions 

Um... 

And John doesn't?
 

Remember, John's brain works differently from normal peoples' brains. 

John made rash decisions like this whereas Paul would always consider all his options in situations such as it.
 

Such as Paul's decision to tell the media he had taken LSD, despite being the last Beatle to take it? a-hard-days-night-paul-3

]]> Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:48:47 +0000 mr. Sun king coming together on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15800 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15800 MeanMrs.Mustard said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Paul wouldn't do it because he actually uses his brain about decisions 

Um... 
And John doesn't?

Remember, John's brain works differently from normal peoples' brains. 

John made rash decisions like this whereas Paul would always consider all his options in situations such as it.

]]> Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:56:57 +0000 MeanMrsMustard on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15784 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15784 mr. Sun king coming together said:

Paul wouldn't do it because he actually uses his brain about decisions 

Um... 

And John doesn't?

Remember, John's brain works differently from normal peoples' brains. 

]]> Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:40:55 +0000 Joe on Why did John return his MBE? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15772 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/why-did-john-return-his-mbe/#p15772 They rediscovered John's MBE a few years ago. It was in some vault somewhere in a British government building in London, together with the letter he wrote. It had been there since 1969, put away for safe keeping then forgotten about.

I'm not sure where it went next - hopefully to a museum.

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