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What's your favorite John?
11 June 2011
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McLennonSon said:

This one:

mithveaen said:

Now * that * cover is creepy... not because of Yoko but it looks like a Twilight Zone episode. Ick. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

Ok.............

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11 June 2011
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Till There Was You said:

I don't know. As a person, I think that John was starting to repair when he was older. And by older, I mean late John. He was an abusive, manipulative, hypocritical person (and I'm not a saint, either, so don't say that I'm being a hypocrite for saying this). He used to beat Cynthia from what I read, and once beat up a guy who called him gay. He claims to have slept with over four hundred women during his Beatles years. He'd come home, drunk, often (from what I've read, but that was a while ago. I don't know. I could be wrong.) He constantly teased Brian for being gay, and sang "Baby, you're a rich *** Jew" as a joke. I think that's why I like sort of Yoko, because he helped him mature. She wouldn't take all of the abuse that he would use against Cynthia.

Absolutely freaking right.

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11 June 2011
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*sudden mental image of Yoko interrupting John about to do something stupid with "I don't take that crap."*

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11 June 2011
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Musically, John in the year after he met Yoko. From November 1966 to November 1967, he wrote Strawberry Fields Forever, I Am The Walrus and A Day In The Life, three of my favourite songs, and also All You Need Is Love and Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds (amongst others).  I could make it March to March, which would incorporate Revolver and Rain on on side, and Hey Bulldog and Across The Universe on the other, which would include the majority of my favourite songs John wrote for the Beatles.

Personality wise, if John's version of history is true, 1975-80. He made up for his mistakes with Cynthia and Julian by being a proper husband to Yoko and moreover a proper father to Sean. I have some doubts that he really did spent five years "baking bread", but if he was a domestic god for this period, then it's my favourite John.

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14 June 2011
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McLennonSon said:

McLennonSon said:

This one:

mithveaen said:

Now * that * cover is creepy... not because of Yoko but it looks like a Twilight Zone episode. Ick. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

Ok.............

HEHEHEHEHEHE...

14 June 2011
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Sorry for double-posting, but my favorite John musically would be Revolver-Sgt. Pepper's, but my favorite John as a person would be right before he died becuase supposedly he started talking to Julian more, and he was trying to turn his life around for the better, which I think's pretty good.

14 June 2011
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Nancys Man said:

Sorry for double-posting, but my favorite John musically would be Revolver-Sgt. Pepper's, but my favorite John as a person would be right before he died becuase supposedly he started talking to Julian more, and he was trying to turn his life around for the better, which I think's pretty good.

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12 July 2011
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[Image Can Not Be Found]1965. and he thought he was fat................ a-hard-days-night-john-4

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12 July 2011
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I don't think when he said "Fat Elvis" he meant overweight. I think he meant something else.

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12 July 2011
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No, that's exactly right. I hate how in one of the Anthology interviews, George mentions John getting fatter during this time, but if he's using himself as a comparison, that's not exactly fair.

 

I always understood that John meant he was in a bad place emotionally, like something that once had a lot of potential is becoming a gaudy joke.

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12 July 2011
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Okay, it could be the fact I'm still very tired, but you are agreeing with me, right? (Sorry my stupidity.)

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12 July 2011
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I think George called him "portly" but yeah it was in comparison with the rest of the Beatles. Call me crazy but I think John ended up as the thinnest of the four which has mostly been credited to his drug use, but maybe it was because of some of that self-consciousness in '65, which was undoubtedly his most self-conscious year writing wise.
But then there's 1980 John who was a health nut who knew all of these facts about nutrients and was in the best shape of his life. Everything I've ever read about losing weight has said that unless you are in an emotionally healthy state, it won't matter how much work you do because the weight will eventually come back, so I guess John was finally in a good place then.

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13 July 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Okay, it could be the fact I'm still very tired, but you are agreeing with me, right? (Sorry my stupidity.)

Egggh...I supose "No, that's exactly right" could be confusing when you are tired, but yes, I am definitely agreeing with you. I don't think John Lennon was ever physically fat.

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13 July 2011
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Maybe he gained more kilos that the weight he was supposed to have.

 

I say this because right now I'm 8 kgs over the weight I have always been all my life, but according to the average, my weight is just perfect.

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13 July 2011
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mithveaen said:

Maybe he gained more kilos that the weight he was supposed to have.

 

That is an excellent point. From the Hamburg days up to the point when they became household names, they were not exactly the healthiest looking specimens.

Being poor and taking speed (or a variation of same) all the time left them all very thin. In Anthology, Ringo said their collective weight gain was due to celebratory dinners every time one of their songs reached number 1. I think it was just the fact that they were eating on a regular basis, period.

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13 July 2011
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There's a new book called Beatlemania!, which documents the UK tours between 63 and 65. I don't think they did have decent meals regularly, even when they were world famous. From what I can tell they'd sometimes get a plate of steak and chips before a show, occasionally a platter of sandwiches, or whatever they managed to get delivered to the venue. I think The Beatles all lived quite simply until the Savile Row days, when they could finally get some decent grub from the Apple kitchens.

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Yeah, Joe I read your review of that book. Very well written as usual (your article, I mean). I'd love to buy a copy but am still waiting for the holy grail of all Beatles books to come out.

Any inside info on the release date yet?

Any chance this thread will be re-railed anytime soon?

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Zig said:

Any inside info on the release date yet?

Any chance this thread will be re-railed anytime soon?

1. The UK release is September 1, 2011 (If you mean the Lewisohn book).

2. The chances I admit to being a Leafs fan

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13 July 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

1. The UK release is September 1, 2011 (If you mean the Lewisohn book).

I hope you are right. What is your source of info?

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13 July 2011
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Zig said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

1. The UK release is September 1, 2011 (If you mean the Lewisohn book).

I hope you are right. What is your source of info?

Joe. He wrote this elsewhere:

Ooh, look what I just discovered! The Beatles – The Biography: Tune in v. 1 by Mark Lewisohn, due out on 1 September 2011. This is the big one, folks.

It''s not listed yet on Amazon.com, but I'm sure it''ll follow soon.

I'd like to think he's enough of a source.

Edit: It's still not on Amazon.ca/com

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