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25 November 2013
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There was an edition exclusive to Waterstones (and probably available in a few other places) that had extra letters in it, maybe you picked up that one trcanberra. 

No idea about the paperback but if i has to hazard a guess i'd say it was the commonly available version without the extras.

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25 November 2013
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meanmistermustard said
There was an edition exclusive to Waterstones (and probably available in a few other places) that had extra letters in it, maybe you picked up that one trcanberra. 

No idea about the paperback but if i has to hazard a guess i'd say it was the commonly available version without the extras.

Cheers.  Mine is a paperback which has a Phoenix logo on the back, Weidenfeld and Nicholson inside, and says on the back: "The paperback edition contains letters not included in the hardback".

 

26 November 2013
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^^^Hmm, I'll have to check my copy to see if it says that...

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2 December 2013
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When I get this book it might be interesting to do a spot of handwriting analysis....see how it has changed over time according to how John changed.

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2 December 2013
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Interesting... So you think his style of writing may have changed as he did in, what, an emotional way?

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Yes, essentially. Ideally I'd like some of his school work pre 1958, so I could compare his writing before and after Julia's death. This might be the  most noticeable change as he withdrew into himself, so theoretically his writing should be a lot smaller and less loopy than before. It's all speculation, and if he was a person who was good at hiding his feelings then it might not come through the writing style at all.

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2 December 2013
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I've never really believed palm or handwriting-reading, tbh. I'm curious as to what you find out though, if you don't mind sharing.

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I have an extremely amateur interest in graphology, so I'm curious to see what you find too.

As an aside, my boss once told me about a woman he met who is one of the five foremost handwriting experts in the US, and she owns a book written entirely on the letter "I." Like I said, my interest is strictly amateur, so I can't imagine going into that level of depth.

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I saw this book in a shop, but I decided not to buy it. I don't know why. It just didn't feel right, I mean aren't letters meant to be private? As I said it didn't feel right, so I didn't buy it.


NOTE by Ahhh Girl 2 May 2014: This post was originally a part of a separate thread that was merged into this one. The beginning of that other thread started with post 48 in this thread.

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@Ahhh Girl Fancy merging this with the one Ron posted the link to upstream http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo…..n-letters/


NOTE by Ahhh Girl 2 May 2014: This post was originally a part of a separate thread that was merged into this one. The beginning of that other thread started with post 48 in this thread.

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Beatleva said
I saw this book in a shop, but I decided not to buy it. I don't know why. It just didn't feel right, I mean aren't letters meant to be private? As I said it didn't feel right, so I didn't buy it.


NOTE by Ahhh Girl 2 May 2014: This post was originally a part of a separate thread that was merged into this one. The beginning of that other thread started with post 48 in this thread.

Interesting question - studying the letters of famous people has a long history of course, but I can see your point.  Nowadays of course we have those warning on the bottom of emails about 'If you are not the intended recipient blah blah blah'.

I bought this book - it just looked too nice not to.

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LikeASir said
Yes, essentially. Ideally I'd like some of his school work pre 1958, so I could compare his writing before and after Julia's death. This might be the  most noticeable change as he withdrew into himself, so theoretically his writing should be a lot smaller and less loopy than before. It's all speculation, and if he was a person who was good at hiding his feelings then it might not come through the writing style at all.

Yeah that would be an interesting comparison. You might want to see if you can find any images of the Daily Howl his school book he used to draw for other classmates. Some of that must be before '58. I no he used his drawings for emotional healing early on like he did later with his songs. He mentioned in an interview that songs pre '65 were fluff and pop and that he got his emotions out in his art work like In His Own Write and Spaniard in the Works. I have a copy of Japan Through John Lennon's Eyes. Made during the mid to late 70's. Basically it will say a Japanese word of phrase have an english translation and a picture John drew to illustrate the word. Pretty cool. I know some of the drawings for his first two books were old material not sure the dates though. 

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The iTunes app store has the app The John Lennon Letters, and there's a totally free version of it to try if you're not certain of wishing to pay for the full version... but that's only three dollars!  And both are simply phenomenally conceived and produced.  

Sorry if this is already covered here!

Am I allowed to plug them here?  I'm only a fan who discovered these yesterday...

Free:

The John Lennon Letters - Lite by Hachette UK (LBS)

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The John Lennon Letters by Hachette UK (LBS)

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4 May 2014
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 To all,

Shameless plug here - if you buy the book from iTunes, remember to use a link for Joe.

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15 June 2014
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I have read neither this book nor any Beatles book...quite an amateur fan to be honest. But one thing strikes me every time I come across one of John's letters to Paul. He would state everything bluntly, John Lennon that he was a-hard-days-night-john-1, his ending sentence would stand out as being the only formal-sounding statement where he would also remind us how humble a person he was. What do you guys think? Sorry if I have digressed from the discussion.ahdn_george_05

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I'm afraid I don't agree, though welcome @StrawberryFieldsForever. With John and Paul in the '70s, I'm always reminded of a couple after an ugly divorce, trying to find a way to be friends after all the venom.

I'm also reminded of an early Dylan song...

When ev'rything I'm saying
You can say it just as good
You're right from your side
I'm right from mine
We're both just too many mornings
An' a thousand miles behind

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