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Make up your mind, John!
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21 December 2010
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The Walrus said:

Heehee- 6+9.


Thomas! You dirty boy!

The obvious contradiction is Run For Your Life and Jealous Guy, but that's a more obvious changing of mind.

You all will have read that Dave Dee is no longer with us. But Mickey and Titch and I would like to carry on the good work that's always gone down in number two.
21 December 2010
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DoctorRobert said:

 

The obvious contradiction is Run For Your Life and Jealous Guy, but that's a more obvious changing of mind.

I don't see the contradiction. Can you point it out?

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

21 December 2010
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"I'd rather see you dead little girl then to be with another man."

"I didn't mean to hurt you...I'm just a jealous guy."

When I write it out, it seems more of an apology than a contradiction. Never mind.

You all will have read that Dave Dee is no longer with us. But Mickey and Titch and I would like to carry on the good work that's always gone down in number two.
21 December 2010
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Instant Karma is full of them. Is John praising this person or persons, or laying into them?

 

"Instant Karma's gonna get you, gonna knock you right in the face, better get yourself together darling, join the human race"

versus

"Why on earth are you there, when you're everywhere? Come and get your share."

And I neeeeeeeeed her all the time
21 December 2010
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The Walrus said:

Instant Karma is full of them. Is John praising this person or persons, or laying into them?

 

"Instant Karma's gonna get you, gonna knock you right in the face, better get yourself together darling, join the human race"

versus

"Why on earth are you there, when you're everywhere? Come and get your share."


Or even better, "Who on earth do you think you are, a superstar?" which sounds like he's angry with someone who thinks too highly of himself, but then agrees "Well, right you are!"

Maybe he's saying the way you're acting now is atrocious, but there's still hope for you yet, and in general, you're not all that bad. (Nowhere near as catchy as the lines above!) 🙂

"We are all a little weird and life's a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love." — Dr. Seuss
 
 
22 December 2010
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"When I'm in the middle of a dream/Stay in bed, float up stream" - I'm Only Sleeping

"In the middle of a dream/In the middle of a dream I Call Your Name" - Oh Yoko!

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I remembered the really good (maybe) one I forgot! 

John's opinions on staying in bed all day sure changed from 1965 ("Nowhere Man") to 1966 ("I'm Only Sleeping")! 

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

22 December 2010
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How so?

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

22 December 2010
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It's not really in the lyrics of "Nowhere Man." Here, this should help. And "I'm Only Sleeping" should be pretty obvious....

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

22 December 2010
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Very True, M3

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

29 December 2010
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StarWisher said:

The Walrus said:

Instant Karma is full of them. Is John praising this person or persons, or laying into them?

 

"Instant Karma's gonna get you, gonna knock you right in the face, better get yourself together darling, join the human race"

versus

"Why on earth are you there, when you're everywhere? Come and get your share."


Or even better, "Who on earth do you think you are, a superstar?" which sounds like he's angry with someone who thinks too highly of himself, but then agrees "Well, right you are!"
 

Maybe he's saying the way you're acting now is atrocious, but there's still hope for you yet, and in general, you're not all that bad. (Nowhere near as catchy as the lines above!) 🙂


I can hear John singing that.

"I require assistance, so am shouting to attract your attention, because I need a person in possession of unique talents to assist me, you are aware that I need an individual of unspecified nature." Sorry.

And I neeeeeeeeed her all the time
30 December 2010
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If you could put that to a tune, that would be great. Thanks. a-hard-days-night-george-4

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Recording Mother and not caring for Julian is contradictory

Putting Imagine and How Do You Sleep? ? on the same LP is contradictory

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I'll agree on your first point. Can you elaborate on the second?

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Contradiction IS Balance...:-)

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mithveaen said

I mean, I can understand why John is now considered a Saint,

 

Now here's a clue to you all

A saint he was not at all

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The CREeK said

The more I read things like this, the more I think my friend was right! He has this theory where I'm the reincarnation of John Lennon

 

First the warring aliens, now THAT ! What kind of forum is this ?

Okay from now on I'm gonna be the replacemernt and the reincarnation both at the same time of Ringo before he's dead. How do you like that ?

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People are contradictions inherently. People are not rationale beings. We are emotional beings, who do things at times that seem to, or does, contradict earlier actions/statements. But I don't think either of the examples above are contradictory. John didn't care for Julian because he was a mistake - made because of whiskey on a Saturday night, according to the Playboy Interview. I'm not saying that's right, but if that's how he viewed his eldest son, his behaviour makes sense. 

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

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