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Lennon's voice "like an orange"
22 October 2013
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There’s a quote in “Revolution In The Head” what Lennon was once asked George Martin make his voice sound like an orange – but the quote is unsourced. Does anyone know where this comes from? I haven’t seen it in any Beatles books I’ve read. George Martin’s book “All You Need Is Ears” perhaps?

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When I read the book, I mentioned that here, but haven’t found the source yet.

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I seem to remember it being from a documentary, perhaps Granada’s It Was 20 Years Ago Today… programme about the recording of Sgt. Pepper on its 20th anniversary. However, I do not remember it being specifically about John’s voice. Martin was explaining the difference between John and Paul when it came to recording their songs, and how Paul would always have very specific ideas about what he wanted when he arrived at the studio, whereas John was more abstract in his thoughts, and at one time (my head is telling me he was talking about Lucy, but don’t quote me) John arrived at the studio, played his new song, and said he wanted it to sound orange, he then continued to say John’s instruction for Mr. Kite had been that he wanted to smell the sawdust.

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22 October 2013
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^^ Thanks, mja. I wonder if that was one of those moments where John was just messing with him and George wanted to say, “I’m done here,” and walk out. :->

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mja6758 said
… John arrived at the studio, played his new song, and said he wanted it to sound orange, he then continued to say John’s instruction for Mr. Kite had been that he wanted to smell the sawdust.

I vaguely recalled reading this somewhere, too. So, I looked on the internet, and found George Martin’s quote in this article:   http://www.soundonsound.com/so…..eatles.htm   Martin talks about John wanting “orange sounds.” So, I wonder if he wanted to sound like the color orange, or more like the fruit. As in, “make my voice more… citrus-y.” Or “pulpy.” He did manage to sound rather “juicy and sweet, with the seeds on the outside” singing “Strawberry Fields Forever .”

 

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Read the thread title and assumed that some writer had actually described John’s singing voice as “like an orange”, which now that I think of it, is quite a nice evocative comparison. A little sweet, a little tart, acidic and grainy…maybe more like sweetened grapefruit juice, but certainly something citrusy.

Paul’s voice is more smooth, sweet and creamy…like some kind of milky liqueur. And I’m not sure that George’s timbre evokes any kind of drink that I can identify. Maybe some kind of bitter red wine, or even blueberry wine (which I have never tasted. But I can imagine it.)

Somebody should come up with some kind of Beatles cocktail, try to capture those 3-part harmonies in a glass!

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Von Bontee said

Somebody should come up with some kind of Beatles cocktail, try to capture those 3-part harmonies in a glass!

Now you’ve got me thinking about Beatles’ song titles that sound like trendy drinks; like… “Bartender, make me a Glass Onion .” Or, “Mix me a Maxwell’s Silver Hammer …”

If John Lennon asked George Martin to make him sound “orange,” then I can picture George Harrison wanting to sound like “Creme tangerine and Montelimar.” *  (Something tells me that George Martin indulged John‘s creative whims, but he would have no patience if George Harrison requested that.)

* http://www.nougat-gerbe-d-or.f…..orique.htm  Hey, after all these years, I never knew Montelimar was nougat. I just learned something here, and it is an obscure, mildly interesting Beatles trivia: Hmm, Montelimar… sweet!

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mja6758 said
… John arrived at the studio, played his new song, and said he wanted it to sound orange, he then continued to say John’s instruction for Mr. Kite had been that he wanted to smell the sawdust.

I vaguely recalled reading this somewhere, too. So, I looked on the internet, and found George Martin’s quote in this article:   http://www.soundonsound.com/so…..eatles.htm

It’s a similar quote that refers to the same incidents. It’s not the same quote though. Your quote dates to 2006, and the promotion of the “Love” album. It can’t be the source quote for Revolution in the Head, because that was published 12 years earlier. A good find however, as it shows it became a stock story for Martin, and the reason it may not be credited to a source in the book, is that Martin used it many times.

 

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Bungalow Bob said

Von Bontee said

Somebody should come up with some kind of Beatles cocktail, try to capture those 3-part harmonies in a glass!

Now you’ve got me thinking about Beatles’ song titles that sound like trendy drinks; like… “Bartender, make me a Glass Onion .” Or, “Mix me a Maxwell’s Silver Hammer …”

[snip]

Whatever we call it, the drink should have Triple Sec in it.

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Ahhh Girl said

Bungalow Bob said

Von Bontee said

Somebody should come up with some kind of Beatles cocktail, try to capture those 3-part harmonies in a glass!

Now you’ve got me thinking about Beatles’ song titles that sound like trendy drinks; like… “Bartender, make me a Glass Onion .” Or, “Mix me a Maxwell’s Silver Hammer …”

[snip]

Whatever we call it, the drink should have Triple Sec in it.

What is Triple Sec?

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meanmistermustard said

Ahhh Girl said

Bungalow Bob said

Von Bontee said

Somebody should come up with some kind of Beatles cocktail, try to capture those 3-part harmonies in a glass!

Now you’ve got me thinking about Beatles’ song titles that sound like trendy drinks; like… “Bartender, make me a Glass Onion .” Or, “Mix me a Maxwell’s Silver Hammer …”

[snip]

Whatever we call it, the drink should have Triple Sec in it.

What is Triple Sec?

Triple sec is an orange-flavored liqueur, which would suit John’s voice. But then I also imagine that this Beatles cocktail should be stinking of gin, too. :)

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Bungalow Bob said

meanmistermustard said

Ahhh Girl said

Bungalow Bob said

Von Bontee said

Somebody should come up with some kind of Beatles cocktail, try to capture those 3-part harmonies in a glass!

Now you’ve got me thinking about Beatles’ song titles that sound like trendy drinks; like… “Bartender, make me a Glass Onion .” Or, “Mix me a Maxwell’s Silver Hammer …”

[snip]

Whatever we call it, the drink should have Triple Sec in it.

What is Triple Sec?

Triple sec is an orange-flavored liqueur, which would suit John’s voice. But then I also imagine that this Beatles cocktail should be stinking of gin, too. :)

Not shminking tho as that would do them in in the end and we don’t want that. Drink responsibly people.

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This is sweet

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meanmistermustard said

Bungalow Bob said

meanmistermustard said

Ahhh Girl said

Bungalow Bob said

Von Bontee said

Somebody should come up with some kind of Beatles cocktail, try to capture those 3-part harmonies in a glass!

Now you’ve got me thinking about Beatles’ song titles that sound like trendy drinks; like… “Bartender, make me a Glass Onion .” Or, “Mix me a Maxwell’s Silver Hammer …”

[snip]

Whatever we call it, the drink should have Triple Sec in it.

What is Triple Sec?

Triple sec is an orange-flavored liqueur, which would suit John’s voice. But then I also imagine that this Beatles cocktail should be stinking of gin, too. :)

Not shminking tho as that would do them in in the end and we don’t want that. Drink responsibly people.

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This is sweet

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And “Triple” in triple sec is for 3-part harmony.

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mja6758 said
he then continued to say John’s instruction for Mr. Kite had been that he wanted to smell the sawdust.

I can definitely smell the sawdust in that song! Well done, George! 

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Not shminking tho as that would do them in in the end and we don’t want that. Drink responsibly people.

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Whatever we call it, the drink should have Triple Sec in it.

OK, so John Lennon wanted to sound “orange,” so we know the Beatles’ special drink will have orange-flavored triple sec in it. So a possible name for this cocktail might be… “Triple sec-sy Sadie.” And it must be a strong drink, because it “made a fool of everyone.”

 

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I thought he wasn’t talking about his voice, but rather about the song as a whole. I don’t know.

After reading this thread I could really do with a glass of wine.

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Linde said

After reading this thread I could really do with a glass of wine.

Linde, in keeping with the spirit of this thread, may I suggest a chilled glass of Charonge orange-flavored wine? 

Up until this moment, I had no idea that orange-flavored wine even existed. After a few glasses, your voice will probably sound at least a little orange. :)

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