The Beatles Bible - Topic: Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/ Simple:Press Version 5.2.6 DrBeatle on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70255 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70255 Well, when I said Yoko was calling attention to herself, it was more of a general "that's what she's always done" statement. As for the whole gun violence thing, I don't want to get into a political debate on here when we're here to discuss Beatles, so I'll agree to hold my tongue and not rebut your post, mja6758. My issue wasn't with her posting what she did...it was that she tweeted it 7 or 8 times in a row. And the White House retweeting it...they have a clear agenda so that's no surprise. If anything, that impresses me less ...]]> Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:04:34 +0100 mja6758 on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70221 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70221 She was contributing to the post-Sandy Hook gun debate. The White House retweeted it. I see nothing wrong, as I said above, with Yoko ramming home the message as bluntly as possible, that we - and she - lost John in a pointless and bloody act that was committed by a man with mental health issues and a legally held weapon. Many more times people have died from gun violence on America's shores than in their foreign wars since we lost John. There are just those who will always say anything Yoko does is about Yoko, while ignoring what she ...]]> Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:32:18 +0100 vonbontee on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70220 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70220 Mmm, I really can't see how assembling a video full of some of the last-ever John Lennon footage (mostly walking with Yoko through Central Park, I believe) and releasing it to the media as a kind of farewell tribute is supposed to be interpreted as a "look at me" gesture from Yoko. Unless you're referring to the choice of song used and finding something selfish in the selection of a song written for the woman herself. I suppose "Watching the Wheels" would've called less inadvertent attention to Yoko herself as far as that goes, if that's what you meant.

Never ...]]> Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:57:45 +0100 DrBeatle on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70119 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70119 I've seen that video, too...seems like a very weird thing to put into a song with a message such as Woman, but this is Yoko we're talking about...anything to bring her more "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEE!" attention, eh? :roll: Same thing with what she did with the Season of Glass cover, tweeting it on her Twitter account something like a dozen times within the span of a few days this past March. :roll: :roll:

 

]]> Mon, 08 Apr 2013 13:46:49 +0100 vonbontee on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70048 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70048 I just remember that video because, at the time of the premiere in January (February?) of '81, Yoko alleged that it was only going to be aired once...or once in each country, anyways. I got to see it twice, a week apart, on Canadian and American TV.

]]> Sun, 07 Apr 2013 00:28:31 +0100 mja6758 on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70046 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70046 I relooked at the original Woman video. I more than likely did see it at the time. I think the Elton John performance, which after checking turns out to be Parkinson and not Wogan as I originally said, stuck more in my mind because the pictures interrupted the performance footage, though were probably taken (mainly) from the Woman video; Imagine cover - morgue headshot - picture of the man who shot him - newspaper cover of Lennon signing an autograph for him. Yoko - see her Season of Glass album cover - did, and still does, like to graphically make the ...]]> Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:32:47 +0100 Egroeg Evoli on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70039 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70039

vonbontee said

It was a side-on, oddly reminiscent of the Imagine cover, and the body bag was only unzipped enough to show his face. It is not a horrific picture, just one I'd rather have seen. Ironically, my first exposure to it was via an early-evening British chat show called Wogan. Elton John went on to perform Empty Garden (Hey, Hey, Johnny) and his performance was accompanied by a series of pictures of John, and that was one of them...

Did you ever see the original Woman video from 1981, in which Yoko (or whoever the director was) makes the ...]]> Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:35:57 +0100 vonbontee on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70007 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70007

It was a side-on, oddly reminiscent of the Imagine cover, and the body bag was only unzipped enough to show his face. It is not a horrific picture, just one I'd rather have seen. Ironically, my first exposure to it was via an early-evening British chat show called Wogan. Elton John went on to perform Empty Garden (Hey, Hey, Johnny) and his performance was accompanied by a series of pictures of John, and that was one of them...

Did you ever see the original Woman video from 1981, in which Yoko (or whoever the director was) makes the connection clear by ...]]> Fri, 05 Apr 2013 22:57:54 +0100 LongHairedLady on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70005 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70005

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
The last picture was most likely the one published on the cover of one of the NY papers.

He appears to be sleeping.

He looks pretty much the way you'd expect if he were "lying in state."

Viewed that way, I don't know how disrespectful it is. Some might take comfort in knowing that he looked peaceful.

 

I agree with the first part, because I saw my dad in his casket after he passed away.  It was nice to see him at peace instead of the time I had seen him before that when he was ...]]> Fri, 05 Apr 2013 22:19:37 +0100 DrBeatle on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70003 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70003

mja6758 said

DrBeatle said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
The last picture was most likely the one published on the cover of one of the NY papers.

He appears to be sleeping.

He looks pretty much the way you'd expect if he were "lying in state."

Viewed that way, I don't know how disrespectful it is. Some might take comfort in knowing that he looked peaceful.

 

I'd read it was after they'd done an autopsy? (although why they'd need to do one with such an obvious COD I'm not sure...maybe to see the extent of the ...]]> Fri, 05 Apr 2013 21:01:43 +0100 meanmistermustard on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70002 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p70002 Whilst there are a great number of journalists in the UK who have broken the laws of common press decency (mud-racking, phone and email hacking, ignoring the facts for the sake of a story, worse spinning of a story than any politician, paying prison wardens and cops for information etc - many of whom would make more grammatical and spelling errors in an essay than a blindfolded drunken monkey at a typewrite or me), there are many who remain committed to a high standard of professionalism and do excellent investigative journalism.

Lets not forget that there were rules and laws in place to deal with phone hacking etc but were ...]]> Fri, 05 Apr 2013 20:50:37 +0100 fabfouremily on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p69995 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p69995

parlance said

fabfouremily said
I know they're not all the same but I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of them will stop at nothing to get their hands on ''juicy'' gossip.

 

Actually, no. The majority of photojournalists - the ones who bring you the daily news, covering breaking stories, doing portraits of ordinary newsmakers, press conferences, risking their lives in war-torn areas - are unsung heroes. They're not doing glamorous work. It's just unfortunate that the minority of paparazzi-types are the ones that stand out in your perception.

parlance

 

As mja ...]]> Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:27:29 +0100 mja6758 on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p69994 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p69994

DrBeatle said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
The last picture was most likely the one published on the cover of one of the NY papers.

He appears to be sleeping.

He looks pretty much the way you'd expect if he were "lying in state."

Viewed that way, I don't know how disrespectful it is. Some might take comfort in knowing that he looked peaceful.

 

I'd read it was after they'd done an autopsy? (although why they'd need to do one with such an obvious COD I'm not sure...maybe to see the extent of the damage?). He ...]]> Fri, 05 Apr 2013 18:33:30 +0100 DrBeatle on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p69993 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p69993

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
The last picture was most likely the one published on the cover of one of the NY papers.

He appears to be sleeping.

He looks pretty much the way you'd expect if he were "lying in state."

Viewed that way, I don't know how disrespectful it is. Some might take comfort in knowing that he looked peaceful.

 

I'd read it was after they'd done an autopsy? (although why they'd need to do one with such an obvious COD I'm not sure...maybe to see the extent of the damage?). He was in an (unzipped) ...]]> Fri, 05 Apr 2013 18:17:38 +0100 parlance on Last photograph of Lennon. http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p69983 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/last-photograph-of-lennon/page-3/#p69983

mja6758 said
The UK is a very difficult country in which to have a positive view of print journalism at the moment, with the best tainted by the worst.

Fair enough.

parlance

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