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John Vs George on Lead Guitar
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14 August 2013
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I don't know if it's ever been posted, but,

I wonder how they can be distinguished from each other style,
like I've read somewhere John did the solo on "
Honey Pie" ...
It's very beautiful Jazz solo in my opinion,
very spontaneous yet fit the (jazzy chordal) bill ...

So I conclude, George is somehow "text-book" for lead,
as he also stated he learnt from the band like the byrds
as opposite John is more intuitive and spontaneous.

Not saying George is less artful,
but how about that guys?

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14 August 2013
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I would say it is the other way around. The Byrds learned from George. Inspired by George Harrison’s use of a Rickenbacker twelve-string (the company’s very first twelve-string) in the Beatles’ film A Hard Day’s Night, McGuinn bought one for himself in early 1965. I believe McGuinn made some modifications to his 460/12 string which gave the Byrds there unique sound.

Regarding Lennon as a guitarist, he was excellent as a rhythm player but not very good on lead though he did shine a bit in such songs as 'Get Back' and 'She's so Heavy'

 

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Lemme think..."You Can't Do That", "Nowhere Man" (shared lead), "Yer Blues", "Savoy Truffle", "For You Blue", "Get Back", "Come Together", "She's So Heavy" and "The End" are the only ones I can remember.

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14 August 2013
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Von Bontee said
Lemme think..."
You Can't Do That", "Nowhere Man" (shared lead), "Yer Blues", "Savoy Truffle", "For You Blue", "Get Back", "Come Together", "She's So Heavy" and "The End" are the only ones I can remember.

Lennon does not play the lead solos on 'Savoy Truffle' and 'Come Together' They are both George. 

He does share the lead with George on 'Long Tall Sally'

 

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15 August 2013
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OK, thanks for the correction! I meant "Honey Pie" rather than "Savoy Truffle"

I didn't know about "Long Tall Sally" either. George plays the second solo, right? I like that one.

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Von Bontee said
OK, thanks for the correction! I meant "
Honey Pie" rather than "Savoy Truffle"

I didn't know about "Long Tall Sally" either. George plays the second solo, right? I like that one.

Yes. George does the second solo.

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Isn't there some contention about whether John or George plays the Hey Bulldog solo?

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Though it doesn't really have a lead per se, "The Ballad Of John And Yoko" as well (on which neither George nor Ringo played at all, of course).

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Hey Bulldog sounds like John to me. John also plays the solo on Matchbox.

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meanmistermustard said
Hey Bulldog sounds like John to me. John also plays the solo on Matchbox.

'Matchbox' is George but I believe 'Slow Down' is John

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Inner Light said

meanmistermustard said
Hey Bulldog sounds like John to me. John also plays the solo on Matchbox.

'Matchbox' is George but I believe 'Slow Down' is John

Oh, I had the Live At The BBC version in my head with Ringo's call to John.

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I actually watched a video on YouTube of a guy who basically put together all his thoughts on the solo for Hey Bulldog. He concluded it was George who played it, but John who wrote the solo; he did write many of their most iconic riffs, after all. 

I support the theory that George played it; even Geoff Emerick admits George played it, after writing about how they let Paul do Taxman because they felt George's songs weren't worth that much time.

John also played lead on Too Much Monkey Business; and didn't he play the opening on Every Little Thing or something? 

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