The Beatles Bible - Topic: John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Expert Textpert on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:41:53 +0100

Funny Paper said

Expert Textpert said

Funny Paper said
This Western attraction to reincarnation (and other Eastern ideas) is amusing, when one considers that in Buddhism, reincarnation is precisely a bad thing to escape: reincarnation in that perspective is the continuing imprisonment of the "self" in the karmic wheel, delaying the freedom from karma that is the true goal.

Yes, that's true. Also, Buddhists don't believe that you necessarily come back as a human every time. However, the Western tradition teaches that souls evolve and reincarnate along a chain of being...there is an old saying that goes "First the stone, ...

Funny Paper on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:32:37 +0100

Expert Textpert said

Funny Paper said
This Western attraction to reincarnation (and other Eastern ideas) is amusing, when one considers that in Buddhism, reincarnation is precisely a bad thing to escape: reincarnation in that perspective is the continuing imprisonment of the "self" in the karmic wheel, delaying the freedom from karma that is the true goal.

Yes, that's true. Also, Buddhists don't believe that you necessarily come back as a human every time. However, the Western tradition teaches that souls evolve and reincarnate along a chain of being...there is an old saying that goes "First the stone, ...

Expert Textpert on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:21:34 +0100

Funny Paper said
This Western attraction to reincarnation (and other Eastern ideas) is amusing, when one considers that in Buddhism, reincarnation is precisely a bad thing to escape: reincarnation in that perspective is the continuing imprisonment of the "self" in the karmic wheel, delaying the freedom from karma that is the true goal.

Yes, that's true. Also, Buddhists don't believe that you necessarily come back as a human every time. However, the Western tradition teaches that souls evolve and reincarnate along a chain of being...there is an old saying that goes "First the stone, then the plant, then the animal, and ...

Funny Paper on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:06:13 +0100

This Western attraction to reincarnation (and other Eastern ideas) is amusing, when one considers that in Buddhism, reincarnation is precisely a bad thing to escape: reincarnation in that perspective is the continuing imprisonment of the "self" in the karmic wheel, delaying the freedom from karma that is the true goal.

sky090909 on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:01:47 +0100

Joe said
The planned birth date has been a rumour for some years, but I've never seen any evidence for it. AFAIK he didn't reunite with Yoko until February 1975, which would - assuming they conceived Sean immediately* - have put the due date somewhere in November. Now, I know the Lennons were very rich and used to getting their way, but would they really be able to schedule a pre-term c-section for no reason other than "It's John's birthday"? I can't help but doubt it.

I live in the UK. It wouldn't happen here, but I've no idea ...

Joe on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Tue, 14 May 2013 16:35:52 +0100

The planned birth date has been a rumour for some years, but I've never seen any evidence for it. AFAIK he didn't reunite with Yoko until February 1975, which would - assuming they conceived Sean immediately* - have put the due date somewhere in November. Now, I know the Lennons were very rich and used to getting their way, but would they really be able to schedule a pre-term c-section for no reason other than "It's John's birthday"? I can't help but doubt it.

I live in the UK. It wouldn't happen here, but I've no idea what medical professionals in ...

Expert Textpert on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 20:44:10 +0100

Spectre said

Von Bontee said
John and Sean being born the same day is a pretty remarkable coincidence. I can't see how any of it supports a reincarnation fantasy, though, even if I believed in such a thing. Like, are incarnations believed to share dates of birth? I thought it was all about the birth of one coinciding with the death of another. And are the life events of the previous incarnation expected to re-enact themselves in a future one? That kinda defeats the purpose of the whole exercise, I think!

I' ve been interested in reincarnation for quite some ...

Spectre on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 20:37:16 +0100

Von Bontee said
John and Sean being born the same day is a pretty remarkable coincidence. I can't see how any of it supports a reincarnation fantasy, though, even if I believed in such a thing. Like, are incarnations believed to share dates of birth? I thought it was all about the birth of one coinciding with the death of another. And are the life events of the previous incarnation expected to re-enact themselves in a future one? That kinda defeats the purpose of the whole exercise, I think!

I' ve been interested in reincarnation for quite some time and ...

Von Bontee on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 20:29:32 +0100

John and Sean being born the same day is a pretty remarkable coincidence. I can't see how any of it supports a reincarnation fantasy, though, even if I believed in such a thing. Like, are incarnations believed to share dates of birth? I thought it was all about the birth of one coinciding with the death of another. And are the life events of the previous incarnation expected to re-enact themselves in a future one? That kinda defeats the purpose of the whole exercise, I think!

Expert Textpert on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 20:09:24 +0100

I think the coincidence is even more interesting when you remember that Sean shared the same birthday as John and Yasuda...not saying that Sean is the reincarnation of anyone, just--what are the odds of that?

Expert Textpert on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 20:04:08 +0100

Spectre said

fabfouremily said
^^^ Why are you not surprised?

Actually it' s not weird to see people sharing the same birthdays with their most recent past life self or that their birthday is the day they died in a past life. And this with people that were not famous in a past life. However, what would be interesting to know is how John felt about Japan before he thought he was Yasuda.

I don't know how he felt about Japan but he always had a fantasy of a high-cheekboned, dark-haired artist woman, and he had a thing for Asian women (I've ...

Spectre on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 19:59:18 +0100

fabfouremily said
^^^ Why are you not surprised?

Actually it' s not weird to see people sharing the same birthdays with their most recent past life self or that their birthday is the day they died in a past life. And this with people that were not famous in a past life. However, what would be interesting to know is how John felt about Japan before he thought he was Yasuda.

Expert Textpert on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 19:42:16 +0100

fabfouremily said
^^^ Why are you not surprised?

Because their lives and their death are both similar. Both were rich, widely known, public figures who were adored, and they were both assassinated by members of the public who were asking them for things outside their own homes...in Yasuda's case, a donation. In John's case, an autograph. It just makes sense to me, especially if John felt the connection.

I wonder if Yasuda's death brought about the end of an era in the way that John's did...I don't know much about Japanese history.

fabfouremily on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 19:30:55 +0100

^^^ Why are you not surprised?

Expert Textpert on John Lennon Quotes About Reincarnation?

Mon, 13 May 2013 19:24:07 +0100

I'm not surprised that they shared the same birthday. All of that makes sense to me. I wonder if Yoko is the reincarnation of someone who knew Yasuda, maybe his mother?