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8.50pm
11 October 2010
OfflineJack Ono Lantern said:
I am familiar with that photo.It has been cropped.Watch this vid and you can clearly see the limo and possibly his driver as he is about to get into it,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..NZ2ACfNg50
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I stand corrected, Sir.
2.42am

19 September 2010
OfflineDouglas didn't Destroy the tape the next day
He probably found it years later and destroyed it then.
BTW, I hate this feeling of obligation the fans feel with the artist,
Every song a band recorded doesn't belong to us
We don't deserve to hear a song we may want to hear
We are lucky every time the Beatles or anyone else releases an album.
7.27pm
28 November 2010
OfflineNot that I'm interested in what those comments were--I'll give JD the benefit of the doubt, he knew and worked with JL, I didn't--but Goldman's swill would be the last source I'd look to for anything resembling the truth. The guy wasn't a writer, he was a cockroach. Lots of reasons to dislike his take on John Lennon/Yoko Ono, but obviously he knew that there was a huge audience of people who despise Yoko Ono and thrive on further negativity about her. So, of course the erased material would address that, in Goldman's cynical mind. If he could've gotten someone to say that the comments confirmed that she drank the blood of small children and was Saddam Hussein's mistress, he'd have printed that.
Again, I have no interest in those comments. John Lennon left a wealth of words, images, and sounds for us to enjoy. I'll judge him by what we have and leave the speculation to others.
Best,
parco63
1.19pm
13 November 2009
OfflineTime for skye to eat her words-
On page 269 of You Never Give Me Your Money, Doggett quotes Douglas as saying that he erased the tape because it was creepy. I don't see 'divorcing Yoko' as a creepy subject, but at least I can say with some confidence that there was a tape!
3.15pm
14 April 2010
Offlineskye said:
Time for skye to eat her words-
On page 269 of You Never Give Me Your Money, Doggett quotes Douglas as saying that he erased the tape because it was creepy. I don't see 'divorcing Yoko' as a creepy subject, but at least I can say with some confidence that there was a tape!
There's something funny about your saying you are eating your words and then looking over at your avatar. It made me chuckle anyway.
Are you really enjoying the book? I've been thinking about getting it, but I am holding off on buying any more Beatles books until the Queen-Mother-of-all-Beatles-Books that Joe posted about comes out in the fall.
As for the topic – I'm not sure if something of that sensitivity should have been released anyway. If I were in John or Yoko's Geta sandals, I wouldn't want my dirty laundry aired either. Still, it should have been up to J or Y to decide, not Jack Douglas.
To the fountain of perpetual mirth, Let it roll for all its worth.
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10.46pm
9 June 2010
OfflineZig said:
If I were in John or Yoko's Geta sandals, I wouldn't want my dirty laundry aired either.
LOL! (About the sandals)
mr. Sun king coming together said And yes, YouTube comments are stupid. But hilariously so.
1.39pm
13 November 2009
OfflineZig said:
skye said:
Time for skye to eat her words-
On page 269 of You Never Give Me Your Money, Doggett quotes Douglas as saying that he erased the tape because it was creepy. I don't see 'divorcing Yoko' as a creepy subject, but at least I can say with some confidence that there was a tape!
There's something funny about your saying you are eating your words and then looking over at your avatar. It made me chuckle anyway.
Are you really enjoying the book? I've been thinking about getting it, but I am holding off on buying any more Beatles books until the Queen-Mother-of-all-Beatles-Books that Joe posted about comes out in the fall.
As for the topic – I'm not sure if something of that sensitivity should have been released anyway. If I were in John or Yoko's Geta sandals, I wouldn't want my dirty laundry aired either. Still, it should have been up to J or Y to decide, not Jack Douglas.
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It is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it?

So far I have found it very interesting – I could say that I'm enjoying it, but that doesn't seem right. If you want a better understanding of what broke them up, it's worth reading. Short answer: everything, with most of it stemming from the formation of Apple.
Do agree that it should have been left up to Yoko. My guess? It's something that would have been ignored if John hadn't been murdered. A creepy premonition.
7.21pm
14 April 2010
Offline8.07pm

19 September 2010
OfflineThis is going a bit off-topic, but if Mark Lewisohn's biog is anything like his other books, it'll end in 1970 (I'm guessing here, though reading Peter Doggett's book shows that The Beatles' story didn't end until around 1976, and even then they went and got back together in 1994).
YNGMYM goes from just before the split and details all the business miseries they went through. Nobody really comes out of it looking good, though you can kind of see their motivations. Essentially they were too young and inexperienced to ever be heads of a multinational business, and before he died Brian Epstein had shielded them from all of that. If they'd had a decent manager from 1968 onwards it probably would have been a lot easier, but wasn't to be. Doggett also shows that they came actually very close to reforming several times in the 1970s, though the stars were never quite aligned.
As for Jack Douglas, as an experienced producer he should know that you never, ever erase historically significant tapes. I can understand emotions getting the better of him, but I don't think it's a laudable action.
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