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Jack Douglas erased Lennon's Comments
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19 July 2010
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Does anyone have any information or insight as to the nature of the comments Jack Douglas said he erased during the Double Fantasy sessions? Apparently these are comments John made on the day he was killed.

Anybody heard anything?

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From the Lives Of John Lennon, p682 (may be different in other editions):

Before the session ended [on 8 December 1980], during a period when Yoko was out of the studio, John leaned back against the tape machine, where he had delivered so many monologues during the past four months, and said to Jack: "Don't repeat to Yoko what I'm going to tell you." Then he went into the same rap that he had laid on Fred that night he conceived the album in Bermuda. John said that his days were numbered and that he was living on borrowed time. He didn't allude to assassination, but he appeared completely resigned to dying. He even discussed what would happen to his legend after his death, boasting that he would become much more famous than Elvis. Jack had heard Lennon speak of death before - but never with the sense of its imminence that he conveyed that night."

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So this is bugging you too Joe? I can't seem to find anything concrete, but here's what I've found:

I have been working off of this thread for leads, which includes an excerpt, 

This from a Goldmine interview with Jack Douglas:

Jack Douglas: There's audio of everything, every breath that existed from day one to the last day.

Goldmine: Ono has it?

JD: No, the [tape of the] last day got tossed. I tossed the last day. Doesn't exist.

GM: What happened during the "Walking On Thin Ice" session, the night Lennon was killed?

JD: It was the end of "Walking On Thin Ice." It was the last day of
mixing, but there were things, there were some strange things said in
the control room.

GM: Like what?

JD: I don't want to talk about it. I erased the tape.

GM: Things said by Lennon?

JD: Yeah. So I erased that tape because it was a real painful tape.

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 And that's as far as I got with that. I found other articles (here, here, and here) that are worth reading, but don't address the issue. So if anyone knows about the his interviews with Goldmine or Andy Peebles , let me know.

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Joe said:

From the Lives Of John Lennon, p682 (may be different in other editions):

Before the session ended [on 8 December 1980], during a period when Yoko was out of the studio, John leaned back against the tape machine, where he had delivered so many monologues during the past four months, and said to Jack: "Don't repeat to Yoko what I'm going to tell you." Then he went into the same rap that he had laid on Fred that night he conceived the album in Bermuda. John said that his days were numbered and that he was living on borrowed time. He didn't allude to assassination, but he appeared completely resigned to dying. He even discussed what would happen to his legend after his death, boasting that he would become much more famous than Elvis. Jack had heard Lennon speak of death before - but never with the sense of its imminence that he conveyed that night."


That sounds like Goldman hearing that Jack Douglas found it painful and jumping to conclusions. I mean, I could say something totally innocuous, say, "I like fuzzy bunnies," then walk out into the street and get eaten by fuzzy bunnies. It would be painful for people to think of me saying it, not because it seemed "prophetic," but because it was the last thing I said that wasn't "ouch" or "Holy crap! Carnivorous rabbits!"  

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

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Hi Jack. Welcome to the forum.

It's true that Lennon couldn't have shown JD the Paul Goresh photos. Mark Chapman himself offered Goresh $50 for a print of the snap of Lennon signing his Double Fantasy, which Goresh was to have given him the following day, but MDC did the evil deed before Goresh could do it.

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I am familiar with that photo.It has been cropped.Watch this vid and you can clearly see the limo and possibly his driver as he is about to get into it,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....NZ2ACfNg50

Goresh states.

" December 8, 1980, became a day I will always remember vividly. It was the last day I ever saw John. He said to me that evening, as he was leaving the Dakota, "I'll see you tomorrow," for we had arranged for me to show him some photos I had taken on him and Yoko on December 2, 1980. John never saw these photographs, and neither of us realized I was going to take two very important photographs that very evening — one of John and the one of the person who was to take him from us. They were the last photographs of John alive, photos of him getting into the limousine. John never saw these photographs either. I will always have the memories of the times spent with John, but this one especially. After John got into the limousine on December 8, 1980, he waved goodbye to me as the car pulled away. That wave will always be very special to me."

Did anyone ever question his limo driver?

I have never even heard who he was or what he may have said.

14 October 2010
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I don't think it was about Yoko because Jack hated her at points and he surely would have blabbed by now.

 

It could be he is such an idiot for throwing out tapes of John Lennon's last day- tapes worth a fortune and woul be hugely in demand today- that he justified it by making up or making himself believe he did the right thing because there were stuff on it that should never have gotten out.  I mean, John Lennon's last day in the studio would be historic and this fool throws them out.

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Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but do take the time to watch it. Jack Douglas interviewed on the day after John Lennon was shot.

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There you have it. He was too concerned about his friend to worry about what history would think of the John Lennon's last recorded words.

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