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Jolm VV Lemon said
Or, at least he wasn't murdered in 1965. Or 1959. Or 1940.

 

John being shot before recording for Rubber Soul began would have been utterly dreadful, not that him being shot in 1980 wasn't of course. All the music we'd have missed out on, and not just stuff he directly contributed to...

I reckon we'd have got a couple more Double Fantasy/Milk And Honey albums, a few dreadful ones in the 80s (because everything was dreadful in the 80s), and then largely inconsistent music up until now. I'm not sure if Anthology would have happened, or ...]]> Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:51:56 +0000 Jolm VV Lemon on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p65553 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p65553

fabfouremily said

I often think what it would´ve been like had John been alive and involved (we don´t actually know he would have wanted to do it), I wonder if it would have been better, more happy, in general. I don´t know about anyone else but I detect this air of sadness when I watch Anthology, although it´s probably just in my head.

That is so true. The whole thing leans to the bitter side of sweet. There's a sense you get in most events, even tragedies, that they're "supposed" to happen somehow. But with Lennon... that was not supposed to ...]]> Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:14:01 +0000 Joe on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62830 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62830 I'm reading Ken Scott's excellent autobiography at the moment. At one point he says something along the lines of: "I'm regularly asked if John would have used Autotune. The answer is yes, once, then never again. He was always interested in trying out new things but hated repeating himself."

]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:03:06 +0000 mja6758 on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62763 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62763 Thank you for your congratulations! Think I might have lots to say! From the under-informed to the well-informed! Hope not to piss off too many people with my opinions along the way.

]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:39:12 +0000 unknown on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62760 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62760 Congratulations on your 100 posts in three weeks. Took me a whole year to get to 300.

]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:35:52 +0000 mja6758 on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62751 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62751 Thank you. We seem to be butting heads in a few threads at the moment, but it's all in the name of love and passion, and I hope you see there is no disrespect from my side. I just have to say what I think.

Edit: !!!! Just noticed I've made it to Abbey Road!!!!

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mja6758 said
I just do not believe that those who "make it" owe their souls to those who "made them". John could not choose to operate in a non-capitalist world, he was in the world as it is. I believe one of the reasons entertainment is increasingly bland formula mediocrity is because in a digital world there are too many people who think everything should come for free. I am eternally grateful that John, Paul, George and Ringo existed in an age where they could experiment and develop. I do not begrudge a single penny I have given them ...]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:38:13 +0000 mja6758 on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62716 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62716 I just do not believe that those who "make it" owe their souls to those who "made them". John could not choose to operate in a non-capitalist world, he was in the world as it is. I believe one of the reasons entertainment is increasingly bland formula mediocrity is because in a digital world there are too many people who think everything should come for free. I am eternally grateful that John, Paul, George and Ringo existed in an age where they could experiment and develop. I do not begrudge a single penny I have given them over the years, ...]]> Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:25:53 +0000 Funny Paper on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62669 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62669

mja6758 said I disagree strongly with Funny Paper's statement about him making millions thanks to us. He made millions because of his talent. He is still discussed because of his talent, and the talent of three other young men from Liddypool. I do not think it was wrong of me to say that I cannot find pleasure in what might have happened in the decades stolen from him.

The world has far more people with great talent who never have the good fortune to make any money at all; many suffer illness, or poverty, or a boring life of having to ...]]> Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:47:29 +0000 mja6758 on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62647 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62647 I wasn't saying above that I would choose not to let others imagine, just that it doesn't work for me. It just makes me sad. As 1 or 2 above me have said, we don't have a clue about what would he would have wanted to do if he'd had the luxury of the life he deserved. George in his last couple of decades decide he was happier watching the wheels than playing the game. While I wish there was more George, I respect his choice and that he found a way for him to carry that weight. Who knows what way ...]]> Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:29:23 +0000 Douglas_Fir on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62584 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62584 Thanks. Interesting to know!

]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:44:03 +0000 meanmistermustard on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62581 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62581 The song they were working on in the studio that night was Walking on Thin Ice. According to Wiki it was released on the 6th January 1981 and John was carrying a tape of the final mix into the Dakota when Chapman opened fire.

]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:21:52 +0000 Douglas_Fir on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62577 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62577 Does anyone know what John was working on when it happened?

]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:08:09 +0000 meanmistermustard on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62536 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62536 Its impossible for me to forget what happened to John when watching the Anthology simply because they had to use archive clips alongside the 90's Paul, George and Ringo especially when they are sitting around the table or in Georges garden. There is no question it would have been different but then the whole of time would have been different from December 8th 1980.

As said above we simply dont have a clue what John would have done: for all i know he would have decided music wasnt for him, moved to Scotland and lived in the Highlands breeding Highland Cows and running the local ...]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 13:29:04 +0000 fabfouremily on Imagine if John had lived... http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62531 John Lennon http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/john-lennon/imagine-if-john-had-lived/#p62531

thewordislove94 said
The Anthology project would have been so different if all four Beatles were alive. Instead of recording Free as a Bird and Real Love, they would've wrote something new.

I often think what it would´ve been like had John been alive and involved (we don´t actually know he would have wanted to do it), I wonder if it would have been better, more happy, in general. I don´t know about anyone else but I detect this air of sadness when I watch Anthology, although it´s probably just in my head.

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