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History of Yoko screaming
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I actually don't mind the feedback and everything else, i just can't stand the screaming, yelping, howling and the rest. Remove that (and it doesn't matter if its Yoko or anyone else) and i'll give it the time of day –  what all that shrieking adds to Hound Dog at the One to One Concert i'll never know. There is a great jam outtake from the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus called Her Blues however.

As for Yoko's singing, well most of the time i find that she sounds like those little girls parents believe have great singing voices and make everyone listen to whilst the truth is they sound out of tune. Walking on Thin Ice is probably the best of it which from me isn't saying a lot.

I'm not a Yoko fan but its not because of her i dislike the music; i dislike Mick Hucknall (i find him to be slimy and creepy) but Simply Red had a few decent songs.

What the shrieking adds to Hound Dog is humor.  I laugh every time I watch it.  I think people are a little misinformed or maybe their intentions are misguided when they say that Yoko complained about people not getting her art.

She was already an established artist when she met John, and already had a reputation.  Yes, she needed funding, but she managed to get funding before John, so it's not as if she suddenly used John to BECOME an artist.  She already was one.

When John met Yoko, she showed him clippings of reviews of her art, and he said "All of these are negative reviews, Yoko--why would you even keep them?"  She said "No, they're not negative--they're talking about the art."

To her, your reaction to the art IS the art.  The fact that some hate Yoko's art satisfies Yoko.  The fact that some love it also satisfies her. She once said that she knew she had staged a successful performance when half the audience walked out…So to paint her as whining about people not getting her art is in fact completely wrong.

Personally, I love putting on "Fly" and watching my cats go crazy to all her shrieks and screams.  It's hilarious.  And the fact that John would be with someone so bizarre gives him lots of credibility in my book.

 

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I actually don't mind the feedback and everything else, i just can't stand the screaming, yelping, howling and the rest. Remove that (and it doesn't matter if its Yoko or anyone else) and i'll give it the time of day –  what all that shrieking adds to Hound Dog at the One to One Concert i'll never know. There is a great jam outtake from the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus called Her Blues however.

As for Yoko's singing, well most of the time i find that she sounds like those little girls parents believe have great singing voices and make everyone listen to whilst the truth is they sound out of tune. Walking on Thin Ice is probably the best of it which from me isn't saying a lot.

I'm not a Yoko fan but its not because of her i dislike the music; i dislike Mick Hucknall (i find him to be slimy and creepy) but Simply Red had a few decent songs.

What the shrieking adds to Hound Dog is humor.  I laugh every time I watch it.  I think people are a little misinformed or maybe their intentions are misguided when they say that Yoko complained about people not getting her art.

She was already an established artist when she met John, and already had a reputation.  Yes, she needed funding, but she managed to get funding before John, so it's not as if she suddenly used John to BECOME an artist.  She already was one.

When John met Yoko, she showed him clippings of reviews of her art, and he said "All of these are negative reviews, Yoko--why would you even keep them?"  She said "No, they're not negative--they're talking about the art."

To her, your reaction to the art IS the art.  The fact that some hate Yoko's art satisfies Yoko.  The fact that some love it also satisfies her. She once said that she knew she had staged a successful performance when half the audience walked out…So to paint her as whining about people not getting her art is in fact completely wrong.

Personally, I love putting on "Fly" and watching my cats go crazy to all her shrieks and screams.  It's hilarious.  And the fact that John would be with someone so bizarre gives him lots of credibility in my book.

 

What humour is there in shrieking and all the rest? If it is humour then its not the type i get. When John is on the stage rocking it out i want to hear John not get a headache from someone sounding like they are in serious pain from a gallstone. Seriously, if i went to a John concert and Yoko starting howling 30 seconds into a song he was singing i'd be so pissed. 

I should be glad that all of Yoko's vocals were removed from the CD release of the One to One Concert.

And here is Hound Dog for anyone who wants to listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..bKnlRnBw2s

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Here's another example of Yoko urinating on one of the potentially greatest moments in rock 'n' roll history, John Lennon performing onstage live with one of his mentors and true idols, Chuck Berry.  Chuck & John perform 'Memphis, Tennessee' & 'Johnny B. Goode' on the 'Mike Douglas Show' in early 1972, as with the Toronto 'Rock 'n' Roll Revival' show in 1969, the audience was expecting "rock 'n' roll", not some avant-garde exhibition from Yoko.  Yoko wastes no time in attempting to drown out the stars of the show at 1:14 of the video to get the attention that she feels that she's deserving from the cameras, it's one thing to scream from inside a canvas sac at some "happening", but to make such an idiotic noise during such a truly great rock 'n' roll moment is downright blasphemy, I fail to see the "humour" in it.  Thankfully, the sound guy switches her microphone off afterwards, watch closely at the 10:11 mark where Yoko picks up the mic and attempts to further relieve her bladder on Chuck Berry's masterpiece while the microphone's switched off, now that's "humorous"…:-)

 

 

 

 

 

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No offense to you, mmm, as I respect your viewpoint--but I find both her shrieking in Hound Dog and your angry reaction to it be humorous.

Depending on the song, I actually find myself reacting to Yoko's vocalizations with various emotions ranging from joy to sorrow.  I think that she actually says more in a song than can be said with words.

..and I've seen that Chuck Berry video and it makes me laugh, too.  However, I did find the person narrating over it to be very offensive.  When I saw it it was on someone's blog or something, and the person was making horrible, racist, misogynist comments about Yoko that were very violent. I  almost reported it to Facebook…I think they were saying Yoko should be raped or something.

Which is why I agree with Yoko…people are ignorant.  If you don't like it, then don't listen to it.  Don't make a video about it calling her racist names and asking for people to rape her.

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I'm not sure how you can call that art. If a baby's crying  while a song is playing, is that "art", or "humorous" ? I don't think so. It's the same thing, except she's a grown woman who knows what she's doing. And what she's doing is painful to the human ear. Now, I have no real problem with Yoko as a person, like some people seem to, and I also have no problem with her art, some of which is quite beautiful, but what she's doing (in music) isn't art, music, or humor. It's horrific.  

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I'm going to have an aneurysm.

 

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I'm going to have an aneurysm.

 

Like, because of Yoko's screaming?

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I'm not sure how you can call that art. If a baby's crying  while a song is playing, is that "art", or "humorous" ? I don't think so. It's the same thing, except she's a grown woman who knows what she's doing. And what she's doing is painful to the human ear. Now, I have no real problem with Yoko as a person, like some people seem to, and I also have no problem with her art, some of which is quite beautiful, but what she's doing (in music) isn't art, music, or humor. It's horrific.  

Yoko's music influenced new wave, punk and no wave.  The B-52's were influenced by Yoko.  So were Sonic Youth, who have recorded one of her songs and have even done a collaboration with her.  She has recorded with many respectable names in the indie music world today, including The Flaming Lips.  The musical community has accepted Yoko and been influenced by her.  Certain Beatles fans do not understand her music, but that does not make it any less music.  It just shows that Beatles fans tend to be stuck in a "classic rock" mindset.

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No offense to you, mmm, as I respect your viewpoint--but I find both her shrieking in Hound Dog and your angry reaction to it be humorous.

Depending on the song, I actually find myself reacting to Yoko's vocalizations with various emotions ranging from joy to sorrow.  I think that she actually says more in a song than can be said with words.

..and I've seen that Chuck Berry video and it makes me laugh, too.  However, I did find the person narrating over it to be very offensive.  When I saw it it was on someone's blog or something, and the person was making horrible, racist, misogynist comments about Yoko that were very violent. I  almost reported it to Facebook…I think they were saying Yoko should be raped or something.

Which is why I agree with Yoko…people are ignorant.  If you don't like it, then don't listen to it.  Don't make a video about it calling her racist names and asking for people to rape her.

Not offended in the slightest. I respect you for standing by your opinion and discussing it sensibly, too many (thankfully not often here) go down the route of shouting, getting offensive in the comments and taking it personally.

I agree that "If you don't like it, then don't listen to it." but the problem comes when you get John performing Hound Dog, Give Peace A Peace or Memphis, Tennessee and Yoko starts – I want to hear John not Yoko yelping so i get pissed off. If Yoko wants to howl, yelp and shriek then fine but not over John.

As for people posting offensive comments about Yoko, there is no place for that. 

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No offense to you, mmm, as I respect your viewpoint--but I find both her shrieking in Hound Dog and your angry reaction to it be humorous.

Depending on the song, I actually find myself reacting to Yoko's vocalizations with various emotions ranging from joy to sorrow.  I think that she actually says more in a song than can be said with words.

..and I've seen that Chuck Berry video and it makes me laugh, too.  However, I did find the person narrating over it to be very offensive.  When I saw it it was on someone's blog or something, and the person was making horrible, racist, misogynist comments about Yoko that were very violent. I  almost reported it to Facebook…I think they were saying Yoko should be raped or something.

Which is why I agree with Yoko…people are ignorant.  If you don't like it, then don't listen to it.  Don't make a video about it calling her racist names and asking for people to rape her.

Not offended in the slightest. I respect you for standing by your opinion and discussing it sensibly, too many (thankfully not often here) go down the route of shouting, getting offensive in the comments and taking it personally.

I agree that "If you don't like it, then don't listen to it." but the problem comes when you get John performing Hound Dog, Give Peace A Peace or Memphis, Tennessee and Yoko starts – I want to hear John not Yoko yelping so i get pissed off. If Yoko wants to howl, yelp and shriek then fine but not over John.

As for people posting offensive comments about Yoko, there is no place for that. 

I can see your point about wanting to hear John…although one would assume that if Yoko is there "doing her thing all over you" along with John and Chuck Berry, then John himself is endorsing that.  So, it would seem that your desire to hear John goes against John's intentions.  John wants you to hear Yoko.  And if he doesn't, then it's very interesting that she managed to make it there onto the stage holding a microphone without his endorsement.

I think a lot of people here want to believe that Yoko wormed her way into his mind and into the spotlight against his wishes, like some kind of brainwashing witch.  But John himself has said again and again that he never did anything he didn't want to do.

So it seems like if a person has something against Yoko but not John, they should just admit they have something against John, at least as he was during his johnandyoko period.

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..and I've seen that Chuck Berry video and it makes me laugh, too.  However, I did find the person narrating over it to be very offensive.  When I saw it it was on someone's blog or something, and the person was making horrible, racist, misogynist comments about Yoko that were very violent. I  almost reported it to Facebook…I think they were saying Yoko should be raped or something.

Which is why I agree with Yoko…people are ignorant.  If you don't like it, then don't listen to it.  Don't make a video about it calling her racist names and asking for people to rape her.

 

This is irrelevant to this discussion, there's no "Yoko haters" here, which you were so quick to imply during one of your first posts on this topic.  How about explaining exactly why you may think that it's appropriate for Yoko to open up her mouth at all during this once in a lifetime performance by two rock 'n' roll legends?  'Facebook' wasn't around in 1972 and I fail to see how it's relevant to the 'History of Yoko screaming', it's just as inappropriate to have Yoko using a rock 'n' roll stage to plug her "art", as it is for you to repeat racist comments posted by some loser on 'Facebook' here during a discussion about the 'History of Yoko screaming'.  You're pretty much pulling the same card that she pulled on the 'David Frost Show' where she suggested that people wanted to talk to John Lennon instead of her just because She's A Woman, maybe you should pay more attention to David Frost's response to this notion, because it's simply not the case here.

 

You assume that "John wants you (us) to hear Yoko", but upon investigation of the various reliable source's claims by those who were close to them, Yoko didn't give a crap about what "John wants", she established very early on when she first sat inbetween him and his wife Cynthia while they were in the back seat of their car in 1967 that he play by her rules.  John didn't invite her into the car with them, he was as surprised as Cynthia was, and I doubt very much that it was his idea to bring her into The Beatles' recording studio eventually as well, he just tolerated it because that was the nature of their relationship.  Go back and watch the first minute of the Berry/Lennon video that I posted, take note that the microphone in front of Yoko is actually pointed inbetween her and Jerry Rubin at waist height before they begin performing, why?  To amplify BOTH of their drums, but at the 0:53 point of the video Yoko takes it upon herself to raise the microphone for herself with complete disregard for Jerry Rubin's playing, why?  So she can make her very own personal artistic statement.  I don't see any evidence of John Lennon directing her to do so, nor do I see or hear any objections by Mr. Ono Lennon when the soundman understandably switches her microphone to off…:-)

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Billy Rhythm, since you entered the thread everything you have posted has been biased against Yoko.

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John knew what Yoko does on stage.  She had done it before.  He knew what she was capable of when he brought her with him.  So, whether the microphone was pointed at her or not, by virtue of her being there he was endorsing her.  The same can't be said for Chuck Berry.  He is obviously upset by what she did.  I think it is funny because it's very "punk rock" for lack of a better word.

Yoko may have tried to break up John's marriage, but it was pretty much broken anyway.  John was an adult.  He wasn't blackmailed into marrying Yoko.  He did it because he wanted to.  No one forced him to marry Yoko, spend all his time with her, perform with her on stage, produce her albums, etc.  That would be a pretty magical talent, being able to force someone to do all those things against his wishes.

I don't understand how people can be so biased against Yoko.

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^ Yes, she was an established artist, but one with a limited audience.  She tagged on to John like a limpet to increase the audience.  John was quite happy with that.  Then she does the anarchic punk thing and ruins every show they appear on for the majority of the audience.  You keep mentioning bias – I'm just talking dislike for what she does – and yes, both of them are culpable.  Anyway, she has us talking about her so mission accomplished I guess.

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^ Yes, she was an established artist, but one with a limited audience.  She tagged on to John like a limpet to increase the audience.  John was quite happy with that.  Then she does the anarchic punk thing and ruins every show they appear on for the majority of the audience.  You keep mentioning bias – I'm just talking dislike for what she does – and yes, both of them are culpable.  Anyway, she has us talking about her so mission accomplished I guess.

I can see that perspective.

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I just had a rough day but that video with Chuck Berry in which she randomly starts shrieking really cheered me up. What a twat.

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^^ Sorry to hear you've had a rough day, Linde. :(

I wouldn't call her a twat just beacause I don't like her music. I like some of her other art, but that of the musical type I do avoid. It's interesting that she also considers our reaction to her to be art. That's a new one. Going back to music though, I think it should be, above all, enjoyable, and I find it very difficult to listen to her, never mind enjoy it. If she's happy doing it though, then I don't really see what harm she's doing (songs of John's or other's that she ''takes/took over'' aside). If you don't like it, then don't listen to it, that's what I say.

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Back to the topic of the 'History of Yoko screaming', her "screaming" wasn't just limited to music performances & art exhibitions, this here is probably one of the best (and truly the saddest) examples of her, in my opinion, very intrusive behaviour.  This is a recording from the 'Get Back Sessions', and appears to be nearing up to the Rooftop Concert finale.  It seems that this takes place immediately after George walked out on the band and informed his wife Patti that he was "no longer a Beatle anymore".  Listen closely as John attempts to have a conversation with the producers on where to go from this point, it's pretty clear that no one has any idea if and when George is coming back.  This has to be one of the biggest crisis moments in Beatles' history, and John "the leader" is attempting to find a solution while Paul plays piano off in the distance (he even breaks into 'Martha My Dear&#39a-hard-days-night-george-10.  This is very difficult to listen to, and I have to say that I didn't even make it to the end of 'Martha My Dear' for I was so disgusted with this grown woman in her mid-30s' behaviour, which resembles that of a 3 year-old (no exaggeration there).  Anyone thinking that her shrieking has anything to do with anything other than gaining attention, will think again after hearing this, one of the single most tragic recordings in Beatles' history:

 

 

I personally had to stop it after the 2:00 mark and have no idea what follows afterwards, nor do I care.  I've provided enough examples to contribute to this volume of the 'History of Yoko screaming' and I'm gonna take fabfouremilly's advice and "don't listen to it" for I've heard more than enough…:-)

 

 

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There is a little bit more chat after 2 mins, scattered around, under, and over more screams for John with meandering piano playing in the background, followed by aimless riffs and yelping that breaks into a god-awful jam with more shouts for John, moaning and wailing. The true nadir of the Get Back sessions and would surely test the patience of even Yoko's biggest fans.

Reminds me of a child having a tantrum, kicking and screaming in the store for a sweetie whilst the mother is talking to someone.

There are at least 2 books that document the Get Back sessions; buy those and save yourself the hell of listening to annoying unlistenable, unbearable crap like this.

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Yoko's song is the only interesting thing about that clip.  I wish the other people would be quiet so I can hear it better.

I guess it just goes to show if you hate Yoko, you'll just go on hating her.  I like how this guy went searching for footage to back up his hate of Yoko.

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