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6 March 2013
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I welcome any deflation of over-inflated Pacifists.

Richard Grenier did a good job in his 1983 article published in Commentary, demolishing Gandhi.

Lennon was a great musician; a piss-poor and reckless politician.

 

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6 March 2013
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Yeah, if you look at the thread on Cynthia's book John, you'll see a bit of discussion on this topic there.

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7 March 2013
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"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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I can relate to Julian, my father was somewhat estranged.  He and my mom split up when I was 5 and I didn't see him more than a few times over the next 3 years (moved across the county..  for a woman).  He passed away when I was 12, but I did get to see him a lot before then.  Like John he was a musician, and would not have had kids if it had not just happened (like with Julian).  Despite that, he was a very very loving father, so I remember him for that.  I guess what I am saying is that nobody is perfect.  I have been a big fan of John's for many years, much longer than Paul.  I have gone so far down the rabbit hole with John that I just had to stop, because it was ruining my opinion of him too much.  He wasn't perfect, but then again, who is?  I sure as hell am not, and neither was my dad.  Sometimes I need to remember people the whey I knew them (or in John's case, what I know of him).  a-hard-days-night-john-1

The reason I compare John and my dad is that because I lost my dad young, I feel like I look for that 'father figure' for guidance.  John is kinda like that for me, along with other men over the years, whether people I knew/know or just admire. heart 

Rambling again, sorry.paul-mccartney

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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DrBeatle said 
I read her book a couple of months ago...she only describes one incident, when they were in college. But IIRC there is some hinting that it may have happened again, unless I took it wrong. John was incredibly cruel to Julian, though, to the day he died. They had repaired their relationship a LOT between 1968 and 1980, but I certainly wouldn't say it was good. Screaming things like "I HATE YOUR LAUGH! DON'T EVER FUCKING LAUGH LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF ME AGAIN!" to a teenage boy (this happened to Julian around the mid-to-late 1970s, according to him and Cyn), is just as violent and damaging as a punch.

Nah, Cyn says straight up that John was never physically violent toward her again after that, though he was mentally abusive.

I know this sounds daft, since I never knew John, or Julian, but how he treated Julian kind of makes me like him a little less. I still love his music and find him just as talented as I always have, but it makes his whole peace and love façade kind of pathetic.

 

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I read a quote of Julian's one time where he said that Paul was more of a father to him that John was.  Ouch, but appears to be true.  He did write "
Hey Jude" for the kid, after all.  John had said that at first he thought that song was about him and Yoko, which truly shows how disconnected he was to his son.  a-hard-days-night-john-7

Paul wrote Hey Jude for Julian, but it's really about him and Linda, so John thinking it's about him and Yoko isn't too crazy.

 

 

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I've also heard that John Lennon never actually threw a punch at Paul McCartney, unlike in the film: Nowhere Boy.

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