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Did Yoko love John?
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Wait a minute, do you guys have any sources for these claims?

I don't. Just pure fantasy.

 

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Wait a minute, do you guys have any sources for these claims?

Its on an internet forum that a guy called Steve who knows Bill who is married to Sylvia who has a written note that she says was written by a guy who once had a brief glimpse at a blurry photo of a photocopy of one of John's dairy entries which was a handwritten copy by a friend of Fred Seaman's who had to guess at some of the words saw it. So a very legitimate and trustworthy source.

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Absolutely...anything is possible in my little mind....but for the record...the only thing that I can prove is that Sgt Pilcher didn't have any jurisdiction on a Greek Isle! I think John Lennon would get a kick out of our little fantasies, don't you?

"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make."

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Absolutely...anything is possible in my little mind....but for the record...the only thing that I can prove is that Sgt Pilcher didn't have any jurisdiction on a Greek Isle! I think
John Lennon would get a kick out of our little fantasies, don't you?

Yep. He'd even throw something into the mix to get us wondering even more.

 

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Oh, that was a fun read.
I hope you guys don't mind, but I'll try to give my answer to the original question. Afterwards, I'll be more than happy to discuss how they all loved Paul and stuff.

I don't believe Yoko loved John in a very special way. The way I see it, her way (if there ever was one), was not one of a person who was in love. Let me elaborate with what may seem more like an essay than a post for a forum.

John felt the lack of love in his life from an early age, once his parents left him. That is a tragic thing for a kid. Even though his aunt and uncle loved him, it was never quite enough. But then came along the best thing for John - Cynthia. Yes, we all know she loved every cell of him. She was exactly what he always wanted, someone who would love, support and respect him unconditionally. She was also his Brigitte Bardot dream girl. I personally believe that John loved her, as she was ideal, and he tried to make what he had with her to be enough for them both. But sadly, she wasn't what he needed, and despite of everything, what we need always comes first to what we want.

Yoko was exactly what John needed. Perhaps if aunt Mimi wasn't as strict, Cynthia would have been all John needed, but with things being as they were, John didn't need to be simply loved and allowed anything anymore, but he needed someone to guide him. Yoko was not much of a fan-girl, but she became what any John fan-girl would want to be - his wife. But how would a fan-girl imagine to accomplish such a thing? Whichever fantasy can be taken as a reply, they would all be different, but connected with one thing - the imagination of it being the random falling in love, happily ever after fairy tale. Yoko was smart enough to look beyond those fantasies, and she manipulated her way to the first Beatle she could come across. Didn't Paul claim that she came to meet him first? Maybe she thought he'd be easier to manipulate, or maybe she just wanted the cute one. However, when that plan failed, she moved on to John who at first rejected her, but this time she didn't give up. Those who have read Cynthia's "John" book, and watched or read the rare interviews where John admits himself, will know that it didn't take long for Yoko to become John's #1 stalker. She sent him letters, often dropped by their house (miles away from the city) to use the telephone, and then come back because she forgot something. Eventually, she succeeded, becoming the person John 'depended' on (with the help from heroin, too). John was an addict by nature, from what I realized, and it varied of what from time to time. Stuart? Cynthia? Sex, even? He always needed someone to go back to for something, and Yoko took that to advantage. He got easily addicted to whatever seemed interesting enough, and Yoko was something he hadn't seen before. Back then, women were usually what men wanted them to be in a relationship, and Yoko was the opposite. I wonder if part of the reason John liked her so much is because everyone else hated her. He did, after all, have that rebellious personality type and almost always did exactly what everyone else didn't want him to do. Combine that with the fact that she almost literally made fun of their profession in her own scream-music, something I can see fitting in with John's twisted humor. She was weird, and he loved weird. So to get to my point, I don't believe he love her, but more the idea of her.
Yoko forced her way into John's life.
Once she was in it, she didn't wait to use him and his fame. That pretty much sums up her love.

 With that being the way I understood their story, I don't believe their 'love' fairy tale is genuine. Whatever special connection they might have had, it was extremely exaggerated in the public. What I also find very funny, is that John was very obviously fooling himself with it: after years of referring to Brigitte Bardot as his dream girl, after he met Yoko, he made sure to change his story to, and I quote "I'd always had a fantasy about a woman who would be a beautiful, intelligent, dark-haired, high-cheekboned, free-spirited artist. My soul mate. Someone that I had already known, but somehow had lost." According to him, this was before his Brigitte Bardot phase. It's funny how stories can change. 

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She turns up at Paul's house…….Whether he shagged her or not that night and has been silenced……..

Oh no no no...

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We don't need that mental image… I don't think that happened…  

ANYROAD, I was watching the "Let It Be" film the other day.  I love the part where Paul and John are preforming "Two Of Us"…  first of all I don't believe Paul when he says he wrote it for Linda..  I always thought he wrote it for John.  Just the lyrics alone, it's about someone he has known for a much longer time.  Here is the part:

Look at Yoko glaring at them, they're having such a good time and you can tell she totally hates it.  Such a possessive woman.  Hahaha, take that Yoko.  a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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After hearing "Take Me to the Land of Hell," I think that Yoko loved John.  I love the lyrics to the title song, which seem to be about John and his death:

 

Blood River, Blood River,

Moonlight spread on my hard bed.

I saw your eyes in my sleep.

Your gaze was deep, and I knew.

 

Blood River, Blood River,

Take me to the Land of Hell,

Where you and I meet soul to soul,

To never be apart again.

 

Our cord was cut by the Universe.

We floated away

with each other's hearts.

I went East and you went West,

Flying around, our memory of birth.

 

Blood River, Blood River,

Take me to the Land of Hell,

Where you and I meet eye to eye,

To never be apart again.

 

You're my curse.

I'm your noose.

Raise me gently.

Burn the hearth.

Raise me gently.

Burn the hearth,

In a Nowhere Land in the Universe.

 

Blood River, Blood River,

Take me to the Land of Hell,

Where you and I meet soul to soul,

To never be apart again.

 

I'll bury you with my hand

in the distant sand.

We'll hold each other

and never leave again.

I hear your heartbeat to the end of life.

I hear your heartbeat to the end.

 

Blood River, Blood River,

Take me to the Land of Hell,

Where you and I meet eye to eye,

To never be apart again.

"This Beatles talk bores me to death." --John Lennon
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