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Did John Lennon have gay leanings?
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robert said
So here's my 2 cents - and over priced at that.

It would not have been at unusual or unlikely that when John and Paul were young teenagers they may have experimented sexually with each other - or that they may have experimented with other male friends when younger but not each other.

This behavior amongst adolescents is quite common (for boys and girls - especially in the 50's and 60's). This had less to do with being gay or bisexual and more to do with growing awareness of sexuality and what young teens do as they explore - they explore with their friends never considering the gay/hetero implications - again that was more true in the 50's and 60's when such activities were less public.

After that, I personally believe that John had some sort of crush on Paul - sexual and romantic - and that Paul used it to control John in the emerging years of Help, Rubber Soul etc.

I believe that during Pepper MMT days, Paul overplayed this hand with John who then met Yoko - I think John shared with Yoko his feelings about Paul which is why Yoko began her fierce campaign of keeping John and Paul apart from each other (all through White Album etc to John's death). And she eventually turned John against Paul. Yoko's demeanor towards Paul always struck me as jealous more than anything else. John talked about Paul and Yoko in equal emotional terms.

I think in a strange ironic twist, once John's relationship with Yoko was cemented John began to be colder to Paul, this rejection hurt Paul in a deep way - all of which shows up during Let It Be and Abbey Road and the breakup years following.

During Let It Be the movie, what I see is Paul trying to win John's affections back - but it was too late.

But I see Paul desperately trying to reignite John's love for him.

I don't think John and Paul actually had a physical or sexual relationship - unless during their early teen years they might have, as some close boys will- but that sort of "love" was there between them. I think "Oh Darling" was written for John - I think I read that they actually called each "darling" as jokey nicknames. And I know John once said that he thought a lot of Paul's songs were written about him (Beatle songs - not just Ram - but like Hey Jude).

And there are the stories of John crying for Paul or whatever during their early years.

So overall I think John had a strong attraction for Paul, Paul manipulated John with that attraction, they never really consummated, Yoko eventually stole John from Paul, and then Paul acted like a jilted lover. Which over the years is how John described their relationship.

Very little fact, just my opinion.

 

That makes perfect sense to me. Good insights!

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Wow! This is intense! You all are making some excellent observations. But, saying Paul used John's feelings for him to control John; saying "Oh Darling" was written for John (John always knew Paul wrote Hey Jude for Julian...he just didn't embrace that); and saying that their writing their songs on the beds at Mendips when there was precious little room for them to do it any place else...and making that mean something is hard to swallow. I'm not saying y'all aren't right. It will take me awhile to adjust if it is true. Kinda' like saying we never really did land on the moon in 1969. I'm gonna have to change my whole perception of things. I do give May Pang great and extreme credibility as she didn't have anything to gain or lose in telling her story. She didn't need to spin anything...she just told us what went on when she was with him. So, I don't know. Fascinating topic! I almost feel like it is forbidden territory.

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