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Did John Lennon have gay leanings?
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13 August 2013
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Yeah, that Seaman book is a wealth of information on Yoko (and John). To back up much of what Seaman said, I found that the recently released Letters of John Lennon (I think that's the title)...the actual letters and memos and lists and cards and such that John personally wrote...add credibility to much of what Seaman claims. Yoko kept really strange hours (up all night in her inner sanctum down on the 1st or 2nd floor of the Dakota), and she was on the phone constantly with her numerologist and Charlie Swan, the tarot card reader, and her "doctors"..the list is endless. John went down to her "office" daily to try to get an appointment to see "mother" and she was either too busy or not available or whatever. He was clearly depressed about it. My take away is they saw very little of each other during the last four to five years of his life. He and Seaman sailed to Bermuda for a few months and Yoko refused to come over during that time...she was too busy. He went to Florida with Seaman and she came down only for 2-3 days during that time since it was her birthday. She always had some excuse why she could not be with John. Not quite the same image of John & Yoko we saw at the Bed In! But, I believe it is fairly credible. John was lonely! It is sad, really.

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I am reading "Dakota Days" right now, written by the tarot card reader, "Charlie Swan."Basically, he is reporting what Yoko told him during her readings and what John told him during his readings. Yoko brought Charlie into the mix. John didn't really want to get involved, but as time went on, he started to depend on Charlie as a friend and confidant. (His name was really John but Yoko made him change it to Charlie so he would not have the same first name as John). John was desperately lonely at this time, and he was very depressed. Charlie was basically in the middle. John complained that Yoko wasn't there for him. He went to hookers because she was no longer willing to have sex with him. She was also spending vast amounts of money and this worried John since he was not writing anything at the time. He thought his money would run out. It is very sad because he was truly troubled, and he took out his anger on Yoko who didn't understand why he was behaving that way. (Saying cruel things, putting her down) She used to talk to the Japanese nanny in Japenese and it drove John nuts cuz he couldn't understand her. Anyway, this book backs up quite a bit of the Seaman book. John couldn't leave Yoko cuz he could not care for himself or his own business interests. Yoko needed his money and his connections since she still envisioned being the next Vincent VanGogh of the avante garde art world. Very sad.

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Dakota Days sounds interesting.

Oh, I forgot--according to Seaman, Double Fantasy was originally going to be a John solo album, but Yoko manipulated the situation so that she could have her own side of the LP, and then eventually got him to agree that they should alternate songs.  That changes my whole concept of the album, if it's true.

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mccartneyalarm said
The Dakota Days book is as fascinating as Seaman's book. Can't put it down! Also in the Seaman book, Fred and John went to a gay bar in Bermuda...not saying that means anything. They used to go out to get out and hear music. In ny opinion, you can still like Yoko, and her art and music, even if you don't "approve of" or understand her private life. That's true with any public figure, I think.

Case in point: John Lennon. Respect the music and genius, don't like how he left his first wife or that he abandoned his first child (which he admits in the RKO interview). That's just me personally. As the husband and father of a three-year old, I couldn't imagine just up and leaving the family at the drop of a hat for any woman, but then again, it wouldn't add to the John Lennon myth if he had stayed, so... again, who knows?

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