The Beatles Bible - Topic: Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Monkey Finger on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Sat, 13 Apr 2013 20:08:38 +0100

It's interesting to me at what a generational difference there was between Elvis & The Beatles, which is kind of odd considering there was only 5 years age difference between the two eldest Beatles. Even though Elvis apparently respected them as songwriters/musicians, he just didn't really "get" what The Beatles (or any artists inspired by the counterculture movement, for that matter) were about.

It's also interesting that Elvis was such a figure of rebellion, when in reality he doesn't seem to have been a rebellious type of personality, at least in any conscious way. His form of self-expression defied cultural conventions ...

mja6758 on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:56:32 +0100

Funny Paper said

mja6758 said
That's unfair, Funny Paper! You are pulling part of Long John Silver's understanding of why I defended your comment as I did, however much I disagree with it, out of context. You should not go on to say "What's up with the fascism, dude?" because, Mildred (is Mildred a joke or just a name you hate? There's a conversation in another place about what your meant), Long John Silver has said he understands why I defended something I disagree with. Accept that a similar post would ...

Funny Paper on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:38:32 +0100

ElviszePelvis said
I guess we settled why Elvis hated John Lennon at this point lol... Because things are getting pretty philosophical and off-topic in here.

Fun fact: Until I was 19 years old I thought when people said "John Lennon" they were saying "Lenin" and that he was some Russian communist associated to Vladimir Lenin.

There was a famous logo many years ago extending that pun:

Marx and Lennon -- Groucho and John, that is.

Funny Paper on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:34:15 +0100

mja6758 said
That's unfair, Funny Paper! You are pulling part of Long John Silver's understanding of why I defended your comment as I did, however much I disagree with it, out of context. You should not go on to say "What's up with the fascism, dude?" because, Mildred (is Mildred a joke or just a name you hate? There's a conversation in another place about what your meant), Long John Silver has said he understands why I defended something I disagree with. Accept that a similar post would not be made again, ...

Long John Silver on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:17:37 +0100

Funny Paper said

Long John Silver said
Anti-American has memorial in the center of NYC, does that seem logic to you?

Sociopolitical positions and attitudes are rarely simplistic and linear. Often they may be less than coherent, sometimes self-contradictory, or riddled with ambivalence.

That also applies to personal relationships. A man can be living with a woman, or even married to her, but also feel that sometimes he hates her, or just can't be with her (and vice-versa). The mere fact that two people are together doesn't mean there are no deep problems, resentments, even anger going on.

There are many ...

Joe on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:50:24 +0100

Wow, I've been away for a few days. What an interesting, wide-ranging discussion. I'm not interested in censoring anyone, so please continue to speak freely while respecting your fellow citizens of the world, but maybe this has gone a little off topic. I don't mind conversations about Elvis and American imperialism, but perhaps it would have worked better if they were separate threads. Just a thought.

ElviszePelvis on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:03:10 +0100

I guess we settled why Elvis hated John Lennon at this point lol... Because things are getting pretty philosophical and off-topic in here.

Fun fact: Until I was 19 years old I thought when people said "John Lennon" they were saying "Lenin" and that he was some Russian communist associated to Vladimir Lenin.

mja6758 on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:02:54 +0100

That's unfair, Funny Paper! You are pulling part of Long John Silver's understanding of why I defended your comment as I did, however much I disagree with it, out of context. You should not go on to say "What's up with the fascism, dude?" because, Mildred (is Mildred a joke or just a name you hate? There's a conversation in another place about what your meant), Long John Silver has said he understands why I defended something I disagree with. Accept that a similar post would not be made again, but ...

Funny Paper on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:41:30 +0100

Long John Silver said
...but I just couldn't believe that these kind of comments are even allowed on this board.

I'm still not clear on what "kind" of comments Long John Silver thinks would (should?) be automatically censored. I thought we were all cool cats here, and we don't dig censorship. What's up with the fascism, dude?

Funny Paper on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:38:16 +0100

Long John Silver said
Anti-American has memorial in the center of NYC, does that seem logic to you?

Sociopolitical positions and attitudes are rarely simplistic and linear. Often they may be less than coherent, sometimes self-contradictory, or riddled with ambivalence.

That also applies to personal relationships. A man can be living with a woman, or even married to her, but also feel that sometimes he hates her, or just can't be with her (and vice-versa). The mere fact that two people are together doesn't mean there are no deep problems, resentments, even anger going on.

There are many Americans who are ...

mja6758 on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:31:29 +0100

People are people! You should see how much Funny Paper and I disagree on gun control. The point is always to say what you think calmly and let everybody else here decide what they think. Like someone, I think it was fabfouremily, said, there's the chance here to hear things you might not come across because we're such a diverse group, and to come up with your view because your hearing all those different voices.

Long John Silver on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 00:41:37 +0100

It's alright mja6758, I understand why you did it, but I just couldn't believe that these kind of comments are even allowed on this board, that's why my reaction was like that. Cheers .

mja6758 on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Tue, 02 Apr 2013 00:05:11 +0100

Long John Silver, it may surprise you that I agree with much of what you say, though perhaps not if you have read my earlier posts in this thread. You have argued your point reasonably and I respect you for that. I am lucky enough to live in the UK where we have the BBC and do not have to rely on biased and politically-motivated news channels like Fox. I often disagree with Funny Paper's opinions, as she would undoubtedly say, but I do my best when responding not to be nasty, and would hope she feels I never have ...

Long John Silver on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:29:19 +0100

mja6758 said
Just so I am not being seen to be underhanded. I have chosen to report the above post. This is what I have said, and am saying to Long John Silver,"I disagree with some things said in the past couple of days on this thread, and have responded to some. To say close a thread or else goes against everything this forum should be about! Somebody comes up with this nonsense on one thread, how long before it's infecting every thread where somebody just wants to shut the discussion rather than argue ...

Funny Paper on Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?

Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:12:16 +0100

ElviszePelvis said
Today nobody would call Lennon anti-American

I would.