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"Coincidences" leading up to and after John Lennon's death.
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John writes and sings in Cry Baby Cry

"At twelve o'clock a meeting round the table
For a seance in the dark
With voices out of nowhere
Put on specially by the children for a lark."

Yes im being facetious but you can find anything anywhere and tie it in elsewhere. Thats the problem i have with conspiracies. What normally happens is they find a few strong clues that do make you think but before too long it gets to the rediculous where the smallest things are shoehorned to hammer home a point. See the Paul is dead thing. It starts off with 28IF and the motorbike accident and a handful of others that make you think, even if just for a minute, but then they start cramming in clues from 1965 and that because Pauls toenail was blue that means death because in some culture blue sounds like the dead.

Im not having a go at this conspiracy, Expert Texpert or anyone here. Just stating my point of view. I found the Paul one interesting but at the end it i cannot take the leap and its the same with John.

Maybe its down to the brilliant Life of Brian.

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meanmistermustard said
John writes and sings in
Cry Baby Cry

"At twelve o'clock a meeting round the table
For a seance in the dark
With voices out of nowhere
Put on specially by the children for a lark."

Yes im being facetious but you can find anything anywhere and tie it in elsewhere. Thats the problem i have with conspiracies. What normally happens is they find a few strong clues that do make you think but before too long it gets to the rediculous where the smallest things are shoehorned to hammer home a point. See the Paul is dead thing. It starts off with 28IF and the motorbike accident and a handful of others that make you think, even if just for a minute, but then they start cramming in clues from 1965 and that because Pauls toenail was blue that means death because in some culture blue sounds like the dead.

Im not having a go at this conspiracy, Expert Texpert or anyone here. Just stating my point of view. I found the Paul one interesting but at the end it i cannot take the leap and its the same with John.

Maybe its down to the brilliant Life of Brian.

Well, you are being facetious, but I personally would not include such a lyric because the lyric is describing a fake seance, not a real one.  I think there are way too many big coincidences here for it to be merely "looking for something that isn't there." As to the "what is there" part, I don't know.  You could say it's all "six degrees of separation," or you could say that all the people were unconsciously connected in a web of evil. Or, it could be nothing after all.  I was merely pointing it all out to see what your thoughts were.

I  might add that I don't buy into the "Paul is Dead" conspiracy, or that other conspiracy where the Beatles were all supposedly replaced with doubles by the CIA.

There are also too many holes in the "Mark Chapman as Manchurian candidate" conspiracy theory, although that one is at least more plausible, with the fact that John was wiretapped and followed by the FBI.

"This Beatles talk bores me to death." --John Lennon
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 meanmistermustard said
John writes and sings in
Cry Baby Cry

"At twelve o'clock a meeting round the table
For a seance in the dark
With voices out of nowhere
Put on specially by the children for a lark."

Yes im being facetious but you can find anything anywhere and tie it in elsewhere. Thats the problem i have with conspiracies. What normally happens is they find a few strong clues that do make you think but before too long it gets to the rediculous where the smallest things are shoehorned to hammer home a point. See the Paul is dead thing. It starts off with 28IF and the motorbike accident and a handful of others that make you think, even if just for a minute, but then they start cramming in clues from 1965 and that because Pauls toenail was blue that means death because in some culture blue sounds like the dead.

Im not having a go at this conspiracy, Expert Texpert or anyone here. Just stating my point of view. I found the Paul one interesting but at the end it i cannot take the leap and its the same with John.

Maybe its down to the brilliant Life of Brian.

Well, you are being facetious, but I personally would not include such a lyric because the lyric is describing a fake seance, not a real one.  I think there are way too many big coincidences here for it to be merely "looking for something that isn't there." As to the "what is there" part, I don't know.  You could say it's all "six degrees of separation," or you could say that all the people were unconsciously connected in a web of evil. Or, it could be nothing after all.  I was merely pointing it all out to see what your thoughts were.

I  might add that I don't buy into the "Paul is Dead" conspiracy, or that other conspiracy where the Beatles were all supposedly replaced with doubles by the CIA.

There are also too many holes in the "Mark Chapman as Manchurian candidate" conspiracy theory, although that one is at least more plausible, with the fact that John was wiretapped and followed by the FBI.

And that's my point, that's were the conspiracies always end up, taking whatever to fit in the the overriding theme. Nobpdy can tell me that Ringo's Dont Pass Me By details a true crash where someone was really decapitated but its used as evidence for the prosecution. My post wasnt aimed seriously at your posts, lists or anything just a general overriding comment on conspiracies and the so-called clues that are discovered and hammered home.

Actually thinking about it is related to Johns comment about selling his soul to the devil and all that could entail. Its a leap to get the coincidence, not as big as the lyrics in Cry Baby Cry but its still a hop.

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