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"Coincidences" leading up to and after John Lennon's death.
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4 May 2013
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Ok, im totally confused. Can someone please tell me what the coincidences are meant to infer, imply, suggest, whatever?

Forgive me if im on the wrong track but is anyone suggesting that because John said shoot me in Come Together that he predicted his death?

If im on the mundane level way below everyone else can they slip me the answer. I just want to know what the hell this thread is about without my interpretation which might be wrong and/or based in preconception.

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Mr. Mustard, 

I'm not going to tell you what you should think of my list. I will say a few more things, though.  It's interesting to me that in "I Am The Walrus," he samples someone saying 'O, untimely death!" and in "Come Together" he repeats "Shoot me!"  Also, I'm reading Philip Norman's biography and he mentions that some girlfriend (can't remember which) said John was always afraid of being shot.  During the 1966 American tour (after the "more popular than Jesus" comment), firecrackers went off near the stage and everyone thought he had been shot.  In "How I Won The War," when he gets shot and dies, he says (I may not be quoting it 100% exactly) "I knew this was going to happen.  You knew it too, didn't you?"  And when Cynthia saw the scene, she broke down crying because she felt that was how he was actually going to die. Also, there is one more dream he had, which I didn't include in my list, in which he is confronted by a chubby man with glasses, carrying a gun.  And just before his death, he said to a friend, "If anything happens to Yoko or me, it wasn't an accident."

I saw a documentary in the 90's which contains a lot (but not all) of the information in my list. It is called "Charles Manson Superstar," and it is by a Satanist (he is now a Buddhist) named Nikolas Schreck.  Schreck (who I believe is married to Anton Lavey's daughter), claimed that Anton Lavey's curse was responsible for John Lennon's death, because it effectively "killed the hippie movement" which is what his curse in 1969 (one day before Tate was killed) intended to do.

But I am not advocating that anyone make such connections or believe anything.  I'm just putting this information out there because I find it interesting that it exists and that people are discussing such things.

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4 May 2013
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Expert Textpert said 
 It's interesting to me that in "
I Am The Walrus," he samples someone saying 'O, untimely death!" 

And "Bury my body!"

I, for one, would love for you to continue posting your thoughts, Expert Textpert. And I am very interested in things like the coincidences you and others have been posting. Please continue!

 

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Indeed. No need to call each other names and to make a big fuss out of this.

Conspiracy theories are something I find interesting, but I don't really get what Expert means by that whole list. I don't believe in a curse.

It's funny though, those things about I Am The Walrus, Come together etc. 

Maybe Chapman knew all of that and killing him with a gun seemed the most logical option.

 

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