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"Coincidences" leading up to and after John Lennon's death.
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I read it and actually found it quite interesting. I wasn't offended at all, as you were not implying that those coincidences had anything to do with his death. If you did say that they were all directly related, I might have been a little annoyed, but that's not what you were saying. I think you should repost it. 

1966 Susan Atkins stars as a vampire in Satanic Church founder Anton Lavey's Topless Witches' Review. 

1966 Bobby Beausoleil acts as Lucifer in Satanic Church member Kenneth Anger's film, Lucifer Rising. 

1967 Beausoleil and Anger have a falling out. Beausoleil begins associating with The Manson Family. Susan Atkins also meets Charles Manson and joins The Manson Family. 

1967 Rosemary's Baby by Roman Polanski, starring Mia Farrow, is released. Lavey is rumored to have acted as an unofficial adviser on the film. Filming takes place at The Dakota. 

1967 The Beatles are rumored to have attended an acid party at the Tate-Polanski residence on Cielo Drive. 

February, 1968, The Beatles travel to Rishikesh. Mia Farrow is there, as well as Mike Love of the Beach Boys. At the same time, in the USA, Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys is hanging out with his new friends, The Manson Family. Manson is such an influence on Wilson that he records one of Manson's songs (Cease to Exist) for an album (giving it another title, Cease to Resist). In India, The Beatles write songs for the White Album

1969 Anton Lavey publishes The Satanic Bible. The Manson Family become influenced by The White Album, thinking they hear secret messages in the songs. 

1969 Bobby Beausoleil murders Gary Hinman. Susan Atkins is present. 

August 8, 1969 Anton Lavey leads a ritual to curse the hippie movement in the same room where his Topless Witches' Review took place. 

August 9, 1969 At the house on Cielo Drive, Polanski's wife, Sharon Tate, is murdered by members of the Manson Family, including Susan Atkins, Lavey's "vampire." Tate had previously acted in one of Polanski's films as a vampire victim. There is a theory that the killings are copy-cat murders to get Beausoleil out of jail. The Manson Family use knives and forks in the killings and scrawl "Death to Pigs' on the wall in blood, in reference to George Harrison's song, "Piggies." 

1980 John Lennon, now living in The Dakota, dreams that he is reading his own obituary. The obituary says that he murdered himself at the entrance to The Dakota. 

December 8, 1980. Outside the entrance to The Dakota, Mark Chapman sees Mia Farrow walking with her children on the way to Central Park. He hears a voice in his head saying "Do it, do it, do it." He shoots John Lennon

September 24, 2009 Susan Atkins dies. 

September 27, 2009 Roman Polanski is placed under house arrest for a crime he commmitted 30 years ago.

 
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I am glad to see your thoughts reposted, though may I say there is at least one missing from what you originally posted. My view hasn't changed, but I will say this, by putting coincidences in quotations marks to me you are making an inference that one event/rumour/speculation led inevitably to the next. I would also point out that it was Dennis Wilson of The Beach
Boys who had the Manson connection, not Brian.

Okay, I'll change it.  The one that is missing from the list is not essential.  I originally included it as a funny afterthought.

...also, I don't really believe in coincidences.  I think all things in the world are interrelated.

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Well, I suppose I could re-post my original comment and give everyone else here a chance to be offended by it.  Or, perhaps it would be better if I keep my thoughts to myself and you guys can go on debating which Beatle is cutest.

I see what you are implying, and it's absolute bullshit.  You think we're just a bunch of giddy fan-girls that have no depth and don't give a shit about anything except which Beatle is the cutest?  I'm not speaking for anyone else, but I take personal offence to that.  I am absolutely in love with their music, it saved my sanity and has made me a calmer person in general.  It is possible to love a band for their music, and also find them attractive.  I can't help if I find Paul McCartney attractive, and there's nothing wrong with that.  Feeling that way doesn't make me less of a fan, does it?  That seems to be what you are implying, so if it's not, you had better make yourself more clear.

Remember too, you were the one going on and on about why John is so attractive in that very thread.  Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?  Nobody said that justified your love for his music or just for him as a person, so why are you?  a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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Well, I suppose I could re-post my original comment and give everyone else here a chance to be offended by it.  Or, perhaps it would be better if I keep my thoughts to myself and you guys can go on debating which Beatle is cutest.

I see what you are implying, and it's absolute bullshit.  You think we're just a bunch of giddy fan-girls that have no depth and don't give a shit about anything except which Beatle is the cutest?  I'm not speaking for anyone else, but I take personal offence to that.  I am absolutely in love with their music, it saved my sanity and has made me a calmer person in general.  It is possible to love a band for their music, and also find them attractive.  I can't help if I find Paul McCartney attractive, and there's nothing wrong with that.  Feeling that way doesn't make me less of a fan, does it?  That seems to be what you are implying, so if it's not, you had better make yourself more clear.

Remember too, you were the one going on and on about why John is so attractive in that very thread.  Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?  Nobody said that justified your love for his music or just for him as a person, so why are you?  a-hard-days-night-paul-10

Chillax. Everything is fine. Just take a deep breath and say "John is the cutest." ;-)

"This Beatles talk bores me to death." --John Lennon
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