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Chapman's letters for sale
19 February 2013
4.49pm
paulfrasercollect
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Hi all,

Mark Chapman's letters that he sent to his arresting officer have come up for sale online:

http://www.paulfrasercollectib…..e?catid=26

What do you think of this? Would you have them as part of your collection? Personall I think they would be a great addition as they represent an important time in music history, though I don't imagine all collectors feel the same. The Double Fantasy album that Lennon signed for his killer is still up for grabs and nobody wants it.

 

 

24 February 2013
12.05am
Camarasaur8
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It's really weird, kinda stirring mixed feelings for me. On one hand, as you said, the letters and album are historically important, but on the other, I find it strange the way the organisation are saying how "excited" they are to have the artifacts on sale. The wording is just…odd if you ask me, and feels slightly thoughtless, although it is there job to sell these things. Personally, yeah,  I wouldn't say no, but I wouldn't really want to pay for it. I'm surprised no one's bought his Double Fantasy yet; how long has it been up for sale for?

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24 February 2013
12.22am
mja6758
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I have less problem with these than something like the autographed album. They were written to the officer who arrested "him", and are being offered by the officer's family to help cover his medical bills. It seems more a case of necessity than a desire to cash in.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty
24 February 2013
3.56pm
Funny Paper
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mja6758 said
I have less problem with these than something like the autographed album. They were written to the officer who arrested "him", and are being offered by the officer's family to help cover his medical bills. It seems more a case of necessity than a desire to cash in.

Yeah -- unlike with the letters, where the money is going to the arresting officer, "PFC Auctions" doesn't say where the money for the signed album is going.

Also, that site notes that after shooting Lennon:

"…Chapman was found reading The Catcher in the Rye – a peculiar fact that propelled the novel, which deals with themes of adolescence, alienation and solipsistic acts of violence, into the mainstream."

It's my understanding that Salinger's novel needed no schizophrenic murderous fuck to propel it into fame -- it had already been famous for decades (published 1951). 

 

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24 February 2013
4.13pm
meanmistermustard
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Sorry but why would you want Chapman's letters? If i got them they'd be burned.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
24 February 2013
4.23pm
Funny Paper
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meanmistermustard said
Sorry but why would you want Chapman's letters? If i got them they'd be burned.

I'm with you on that.  Though before being burned, they should be read by what do they call them, "forensic" experts in law enforcement -- in case any clues can be gleaned to help prevent future assassins.

Frankly, I get angry at Paul and Yoko for their taking the "high road" in their reactions -- then, and throughout the years.  At the very least, they should express, simply and elegantly, hatred.  I really get weary of this lofty "we mustn't succumb to hatred, now" attitude.  I mean, they don't have to do anything violent.  But at least express your human emotion.  Yoko does all that primal scream bullshit, yet she can't just state, just once, that she is furious with the murderer of her true love?  Something seriously amiss there.

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25 February 2013
1.24am
mja6758
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However much we may wish "Nemo" did not exist, and had not denied us of years of John Lennon's future, unfortunately he did. While I would not want to own the letters, I would have no problem – if I had the money – in buying the letters and donating them to the type of library that hold documents like that. If we set out to destroy all "Nemo" says in vain attempt to try and justify cold-blooded murder, all we do is give weight to those who entertain conspiracy theories by allowing them to say his words have been destroyed. We cannot take him out of history. Things like the album are distasteful but documentation of the crime I think less so. And if the family of Officer Steve Spiro, the man who slapped on the cuffs, need to get something from the documentation they have to pay this man's medical bills, I'd happily pay them twice the money if I had it and put the letters somewhere they could be studied by brains better than mine.

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26 February 2013
3.12pm
vonbontee
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I have a hard time imagining any private collector wanting these, though I guess it's not out of the question. It does strike me as kind of tasteless.

I do think they'd be a valuable addition, as coldly factual items, to a John Lennon museum. And if the arresting officer has medical bills to pay, I guess that's a good enough reason to try to capitalize off the items.

I like black music, disco music. I like the disco music that's out now - John Lennon, 1975
1 March 2013
4.28pm
paulfrasercollect
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I feel I should clarify a few things about this one…firstly, Funny Paper you are quite right about the Catcher in the Rye and the article has since been changed. But also Funny Paper, its not PFC Auctions that are selling the Double Fantasy, that is an entirely different company. PFC Auctions (our sister company) were just selling a John and Yoko signed album.

mja6758, you speak sense.

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