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"Bed-in for peace" - Stupid or Genius?
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I don't think it was stupid. I think a lot of the adverse publicity resulted because there was no quality music produced at the time apart from Give Peace A Chance. Life With The Lions and The Wedding Album were hardly going to endear the critics or the public. An album chockfull of good songs from one of the greatest songwriters of the time might have helped.

 

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Well, again, I don't think Lennon was necessarily a forerunner, but the truth is, the Vietnam War was years in before there was any vocal opposition. And it was years after that before any of the vocal opposition was being represented in the mainstream media.

I'm not entirely sure I concur that "The threat of communists taking over the world was real" - in fact, I think a more plausible argument is that the opposite is true and that it was much more apparent that Western capitalism was actively attempting to maintain or further a position of hegemony. That Lennon's point of view was simplistic was very much by design. If you wanted "clear arguments" there were plenty of them at the academic level - most notably Noam Chomsky who made remarkably cogent and extraordinarily well researched arguments (youtube his interview with William Buckley, from the time, for an example). The problem was, as Lennon himself mentioned at the time, nobody read him. And while I would suggest that Chomsky provided a much stronger argument against the war, I can't deny that Lennon probably connected to a much wider cultural group at the time by giving a very straightforward message. 

When you are anti-establishment, the most crucial thing that you need is communication and collective action. I would say that all the people who got together to fight the war, singing Give Peace A Chance was an example of this, far more than a collection of academic articles.

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ivaughan said
The fact that people are still talking about it 40 years later suggests that it wasn't stupid. 

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And Ringo is still singing about it.

Can you imagine all of this coming true?
It's really up to all of us to do.
Just like John Lennon said in Amsterdam from his bed
"One day the world will wake up to see the reality"

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