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11 December 2010
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Check out this gem I found! Idk if its been posted already though....

 

 

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Mod note: Here's a similar thread. Aunt Mimi on Cynthia and Yoko

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Thanks for sharing that. You read about her, but she's never descibed as a person who laughs.

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11 December 2010
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I knooooww!!! I always thought she was an up tight lady! But nope. And those pics and story's of John made me sorta sad... a-hard-days-night-ringo-11

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11 December 2010
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Yeah, to talk about him in 1981. What a strong lady!

"We are all a little weird and life's a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love." — Dr. Seuss
 
 
11 December 2010
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Very nice find kingjjj8. That was enjoyable, thank you.

You have to respect her for her convictions. When she talked about her telling John to stay in school it was as if he never made it big. I also thought it was hilarious when she talked about his "antics" in NYC by saying, "don't make me come to New York and get you" or something along those lines.

This, to me, sort of grounded John. It was nice to get another image of him that was more human than iconic. I hope I explained that the right way.

Thanks again for that. apple01

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11 December 2010
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No problem! I am just happy I found it! a-hard-days-night-john-6

 

And I think she was a great aunt you know? She just wanted the best for John! And I think it was a little bit of the fact that she tried to get him to stay in school and not do get to much into music is what made him into that rebel/musician a-hard-days-night-john-7!

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A letter Aunt Mimi wrote about John's death will be sold at an auction next month.

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The tour of Mendips really helped me understand just how hard Aunt Mimi worked for young John. She wanted the best for him. She never thought he would make it in the music world and didn't want him to throw away all the intelligence he had and promise he showed. She didn't want him to become a slacker. It seems to me that she was only doing what she thought was best for him like any loving caregiver would.

If she had been able to control him better/hold more sway over him and not let him become our John Lennon, the world's John Lennon, I wonder if he would have been a happier person.

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Fantastic clip, thanks for that.

I can hear a lot of john in the forthright way and manner that mimi speaks. Even a wee physical resemblance. She seemed a grand old lady.

26 July 2015
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I think supporting his art and creativity would have made him a bit happier, like kinda Julia did.

But anyway i think she did it all right, and they both knew it.

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26 July 2015
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Something about Mimi's laugh reminds me of John's. 

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come to think of it you are right.

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27 July 2015
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She doesn't seem anything like Cynthia says she was. It's funny that Cyn was more bitter towards Mimi in her book than she was towards Yoko 😀

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27 July 2015
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P3pperish said

She doesn't seem anything like Cynthia says she was. It's funny that Cyn was more bitter towards Mimi in her book than she was towards Yoko 😀

That's interesting, because from what I've read, Mimi didn't like Cynthia. I read an interview once where Mimi was saying that at the beginning of their relationship, John would often hide when Cynthia came around. She said that they started dating basically because Cynthia was so pushy and pushing herself on John.

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27 July 2015
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Yeah, I read so as well. But somehow I don't think John was the kind of person to get pushed into anything if he didn't like it.

Anyway, Cyn was so much of a doormat. *yawn*

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27 July 2015
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A pushy doormat.

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27 July 2015
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Are you suggesting that she pushed the John Lennon into marrying her, which is what that Mimi article suggests? Well, if she did, she's more strong-willed than I give her credit for.

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27 July 2015
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I always think you have to look at Mimi from two slightly different, though connected, angles. There is the proud "parent" who doesn't want the child to know just how proud they are, and so often have an air of disapproval and disappointment about them. She was also the very possessive "parent" who always wanted her voice to be the most important in John's life. She didn't consider Julia was good enough for John, and so sidelined her until she couldn't stop John, and she didn't think Cynthia was good enough for John, and it was easier to blame Cyn for everything rather than accept that it was what John wanted at that time (not necessarily the marriage, but certainly the relationship). She is a great example of the "parent" who doesn't want to let go. I can imagine Mimi Smith as a "mother-in-law" must have been hell.

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27 July 2015
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P3pperish said

Are you suggesting that she pushed the John Lennon into marrying her, which is what that Mimi article suggests? Well, if she did, she's more strong-willed than I give her credit for.

I don't know. I have to admit I haven't read her books about John, so I can't really judge. All I know is that there is something I have always found slightly offputting about her. I can't explain why. Maybe it's just that I prefer Yoko.

And Ron Nasty, I can see the points you are making.

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My point is, if John didn't want the marriage, he wouldn't have gone ahead with it. He pretty much ordered his Hamburg girlfriend Bettina (?) to get an abortion done when he discovered that she was pregnant with his child. He could've done the same with Cyn, but he didn't. I'm assuming the Bettina thing happened before he got married to Cyn, but I could be wrong. 

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27 July 2015
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Oh trust me, Expert Textpert, I think this whole Cyn matter is fishy, and I think there's more to it than she lets on - I just get that feeling. Especially the way the divorce played out, yeah. But I don't think she could've pushed John into anthing. John could be pushed, but nah, Cyn doesn't come across as that type.

Well, while most people wonder what he saw in Yoko, I somehow wonder what he saw in Cynahdn_paul_01

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