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4 September 2009
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c64wood
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note: in light of there being a more expansive thread on 'Help!' (the album) i've locked this thread. If you wish to contribute to the discussion you can do so over in 'Where's the love for the "Help!"?'

 

As far as the quality of songs and the sound, I would have to say that HELP! is their best.

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11 September 2009
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Really? That's the first time I've heard anyone say that. Do you not think they did a better album?

Help!'s got some great songs on it, sure, but I've always thought it was one of their weaker albums. It's like a midpoint between the early great pop of A Hard Day's Night, and the experimentation that really got going on Rubber Soul.

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20 September 2009
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Joe said:

Really? That's the first time I've heard anyone say that. Do you not think they did a better album?

Help!'s got some great songs on it, sure, but I've always thought it was one of their weaker albums. It's like a midpoint between the early great pop of A Hard Day's Night, and the experimentation that really got going on Rubber Soul.


Don't misunderstand, they are all good. Every album and the singles they did between was a transition into the next album.  There were a couple weak songs on HELP! I agree.  How can you not like the sound of Ticket To Ride, The Night Before, Another Girl, You're Gonna Lose That Girl?   And George was coming into his own.  The only weaker songs would be Act Naturally and Dizzy Miss Lizzy.  DML should have been a B side or an an EP before HELP was released.  I may be biased though as the only Beatle Album we had in my house when I was growing up was the American version of HELP!.  My friends parents had all the albums.  Man I was hooked.Laugh

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23 September 2009
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Was that the soundtrack Help! LP with the James Bond intro on the title track, and the incidental music? I got that in the Capitol Box for my birthday earlier this year. It's really interesting to hear.

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4 November 2009
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Help is my favorite Early Beatles album, the first one I played from the boxed set, but Abbey Road will always be my favorite.

5 November 2009
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The only weaker songs would be Act Naturally and Dizzy Miss Lizzy.  DML should have been a B side or an an EP before HELP was released. 


I've always loved Act Naturally - I think the country feel and George's guitar playing does it but I totally agree about Dizzy Miss Lizzy. It sounds different (it was recorded at a different time we know) and it jumps out as a filler. It would have sounded better as you suggested as a b-side but then they never released covers on singles did they! An EP along with Bad Boy would have done the trick......and maybe thrown in You've Got Troubles and That Means A Lot with them Wink

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6 November 2009
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Joe said:Was that the soundtrack Help! LP with the James Bond intro on the title track, and the incidental music? I got that in the Capitol Box for my birthday earlier this year. It's really interesting to hear.


Yes, as a matter of fact it was the US Sountrack with the James Bond intro.  The first time I heard the "regular" version, it sounded odd.  It was such a treat when the Capital Albums Volume 2 came out.  I wish UA would re-release AHDN with the instrumentals.  I always liked the "This Boy" instrumental.

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17 November 2009
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Starrdog
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Watching the movie was always such a treat in the 70's. I probably saw "Help!" about 20 times before I ever saw HDN. I loved the album because of the movie. I always liked the movie, but then again I started watching it when I was a kid. That changes your perspective! I could see this as a favorite album, but I think mine is the soundtrack for HDN.

21 November 2009
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I love Help!, its my favorite. There are so many great songs on there (not knocking the other albums at all, they're all fantastic) that I just love. Everytime this album plays it just makes me happy. Smile

15 January 2010
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Help! is one of my most favourite albums, and I would probably place it around 3rd or 4th if I were to rank all the Beatles' albums. And I do agree that Dizzy Miss Lizzy sounds like filler material, and I do like Act Naturally.

1 December 2011
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I do like Help, but I would probably only rank it around 8th out of all their original British releases. I also think it's full of underrated tracks, like You're Going To Lose That Girl, The Night Before, I've Just Seen A Face, and You Like Me Too Much.

1 December 2011
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I love Help!, it's one of my favourite albums. apple01

the best songs on Help! in my opinion are I've Just Seen A Face, Help, I'm Down, I Need You, You Like Me Too Much, The Night Before, Another Girl and You're Gonna Lose That Girl.

 

1 December 2011
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mrs.McHennon said:

 

the best songs on Help! in my opinion are I've Just Seen A Face, Help, I'm Down, I Need You, You Like Me Too Much, The Night Before, Another Girl and You're Gonna Lose That Girl.

 

Well, actually, I'm Down was only released as a B-side to Help!, (single) even though it was released in the same timeframe as the Help! album. Great song, though.

1 December 2011
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I find George's songs on Help really good.heart

1 December 2011
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vonbontee
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I eventually grew to like "I Need You" despite the inexpert guitar volume-pedal work but still think "You Like Me Too Much" is possibly George's weakest Beatles original. George was still a year or two behind John & Paul, songwritingwise.

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1 December 2011
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Yeah George just sounds bored in those songs, plus the lyrics are really bad...it's pretty surprising considering how much better his Rubber Soul output was, but George was growing into his position as a songwriter.

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2 December 2011
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For the pure shock value, I love to say that Help! is one of my faves; that's because to an American, the original Help! album is quite weak (as with A Hard Day's Night, Yellow Submarine).

The real Help! album is much, much stronger. On a desert island, I would be perfectly happy with it.

Even loved Dizzy Miss Lizzy from the first time I heard it. I've been playing those bass and guitar riffs ever since

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2 December 2011
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I quite like the Help! Album. Especially the title song, YGTHYLA and I've Just Seen A Face. I Need You is for me the weakest song on the album - it just bores me out and most of the time I skip that song. The Night Before and You Like Me Too Much are a bit boring as well.

3 December 2011
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McCartney played "The Night Before" for the first time ever in concert during last summer's tour. I've always enjoyed it, and it was a real shock (in the good sense of the word) to suddenly hear it live.

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3 December 2011
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I can not understand why anyone doesn't like Dizzy Miss Lizzy...i know that in a way it's different from the other songs on Help! but i find it hilarious! Someone once said that the lead guitar of the song is really annoying...why? it makes me more excited and enthusiastic !a-hard-days-night-john-5

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