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27 September 2013
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A suggestion – it would be great if the search function would take you directly to the specific post, and not just the thread. If the thread's long enough, it can be near-impossible to find the post you're looking for.

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27 September 2013
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Sadly I can't make any changes to forum search. I suggest you use the Google search at the top of the page instead – it's probably more useful.

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27 September 2013
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Good point, thanks. I was just wondering if that's something that could be considered as you're testing out new versions of the forum.

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27 September 2013
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As a note can some one explain to me how the search engine works. I tried to find the Beatles commercial thread and a whole number of searches failed using words I know are there, even using the advance one.

A random example of a mystifying failure would be come together. Using advanced thread with the settings at "all forums", "Match any word" and "posts and topic titles" come together brings up 0 results. Same for Something – 0 results.

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27 September 2013
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I just found it by using the advanced search, typing in Beatles commercials, clicking the button for match all words (not the phrase, as that would look for "beatles commercials" together) and clicking Posts and topic titles. If you do that, the thread should come in fifth in the list.

parlance

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27 September 2013
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Joe said
Sadly I can't make any changes to forum search. I suggest you use the Google search at the top of the page instead – it's probably more useful.

Some of you (perhaps all of you for all I know) may already know this, but just in case, I thought I would share this search tip.

In Google, after you put in your search terms you can add:

site:beatlesbible.com

and you will only get results from this site.

27 September 2013
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^^ I forget you can do that. Thanks!

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27 September 2013
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If it is a short thread of a page or two, you might find it easier to just use ctrl+F (or however you get to "find" on your computer/phone/etc.) and search for a word you know is there.

I did that once with the word "apple" on a page in the "what are you eating" thread. It kept finding "Apple Rooftop".a-hard-days-night-ringo-10

30 September 2013
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You could search site:beatlesbible.com, but the Google search on this site does the same thing. It's limited to this site only.

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30 September 2013
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EDIT 4: I just realized what's going on. I was using the search box/feature within the forum which didn't work beautifully. I just used the one with the full site, and it works wonderfully. So forget all that I said below.

Joe said
You could search site:beatlesbible.com, but the Google search on this site does the same thing. It's limited to this site only.

In my experience, when you do a search using the website's built-in search box, it only takes you to p. 1 of the thread where your search terms are found. Using a Google search with site:beatlesbible.com takes you to the exact page of the thread that you need.

For example, using the website's search box, I did an advanced search and match phrase option for sciatic nerve. It took me to p. 1 of

 
Using the Google search method, I did this search:
 
"sciatic nerve" site:beatlesbible.com.
 
Here's the result list page from Google:
 

Fab forum | The Beatles Bible

Sep 2, 2013 – Sciatic nerve problems take the phrase "pain in the butt" to a whole new level paul-mccartney a-hard-days-night-paul-3. "words that are a 

Fab forum | The Beatles Bible

Aug 30, 2013 – With my sciatic nerve acting up, being tired, and also walking uphill, my right foot dragged. Paul told me right then in my ear "Live a little, be a 

 
Notice that the Google search points me to the exact page where my search terms are located.
 
I hope someone out there finds this helpful. Post on, one and all.
 
edit: Hum, it turned those urls dark and they don't seem to link out correctly??? But, if you try a Google search like I described, it will work.
 
edit 2: here are the urls once you click on one of the search results:
 
edit 3: Just checked these urls and they work to show you that this type of search gets you to the direct page.
 
 
1 October 2013
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cbatcu said
EDIT 4: I just realized what's going on. I was using the search box/feature within the forum which didn't work beautifully. I just used the one with the full site, and it works wonderfully. So forget all that I said below.

I think I can remove the forum search, if it's causing confusion. Yay/nay?

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1 October 2013
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I'm having problems with the Google search – sometimes it comes back with no results, whereas I'll at least get *something* with the forum search. I also really like the advanced search feature.

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Check out my fan video for Paul's song "Appreciate" at YouTube and Vimeo.

1 October 2013
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If you (or a mod/someone/the Beatles Bible fairy) were to make a FAQ type page, the difference in the two search options could be mentioned.

Just an idea.

1 October 2013
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Joe said

cbatcu said
EDIT 4: I just realized what's going on. I was using the search box/feature within the forum which didn't work beautifully. I just used the one with the full site, and it works wonderfully. So forget all that I said below.

I think I can remove the forum search, if it's causing confusion. Yay/nay?

 

Its a nay from me. It would be an added hassle when wanting to search the forum to have to go elsewhere and type it in.

Tho if folks are doing that already maybe I'm just lazy. Well, I am as I just give up if the search doesn't work (see above/elsewhere posts).

 

Why is there an empty box here? These keep popping up.

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1 October 2013
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I'm happy to keep the forum search because it does work for me sometimes, and if not I just look for whatever it is I want. If most people want it gone though then that's fine.

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1 October 2013
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meanmistermustard said 

Joe said

I think I can remove the forum search, if it's causing confusion. Yay/nay?

 

Its a nay from me. It would be an added hassle when wanting to search the forum to have to go elsewhere and type it in.

Tho if folks are doing that already maybe I'm just lazy. Well, I am as I just give up if the search doesn't work (see above/elsewhere posts).

 

Why is there an empty box here? These keep popping up.

MMM, don't worry. The homepage search box is always at the top of the page (under Joe's black menu bar beside the twitter, facebook, etc. icons) even when you are in the forum so you wouldn't have to go elsewhere to type it in.

I'm cool with keeping both. I will test them out from time to time to see which one produces better/more useful results. That's one of my nerdy things: not just finding the answer but the search process itself. I love it when a student says to me, "Can I just sit here and watch you do a search for my topic? I get so many ideas from just watching how your mind thinks." Strokes my ego, for sure.

 

1 October 2013
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Well then ignore me. Completely forgot that search box existed, thanks cbatcu.

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1 October 2013
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meanmistermustard said
a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Well then ignore me. Completely forgot that search box existed, thanks cbatcu.

No worries. I'm the ditz that spent about 30 minutes doing a big huge reply to Joe about going out to Google to do searches when the answer was staring me in the face the whole time.

1 October 2013
7.41pm
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The problem is that there are three types of things searched for:

1) words or phrases you know pretty much exactly what they were AND/OR those words and phrases are unusual, not common (unusual -- "pink giraffe"; common -- "something")

3) words or phrases you dimly remember from long ago, but you can't pinpoint them

2) something in between 1 and 3.

Only with #2 are any search tips useful, I think.  The other two situations either you don't need that much technical assistance from the system (#1), or no amount of technical assistance from the system is going to save you the time and trouble anyway (#3).

 

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1 October 2013
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OK, I'll leave it in place. TBH I tried looking for the setting that supposedly disables it, and couldn't find it, so never mind.

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