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4 August 2011
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Joe
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Sorry if you tried to access the site earlier and found it was offline. My new server is supposedly ready but when I pointed beatlesbible.com towards it everything failed. Hopefully it'll be working at some point and the migration will happen…

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7 August 2011
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Hi. For anyone who can visit the site, does it look OK or is the design completely haywire? Although the files should have been moved to the new server, it seems to be missing certain bits – basic layout, some smileys (but not others) etc.

It looks fine on my work computer, just not at home. Domain name changes can take up to 72 hours to fix themselves, so it might right itself, but I'd like to know what people are seeing.

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7 August 2011
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OK, seems to be fixed now. There were incorrect permissions set up on the server which should now all be OK. Phew. I really hate it when this site doesn't work – it makes me anxious. I shouldn't invest so much in it… a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

Thanks for bearing with me, all of you. Sorry for when things stopped working.

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7 August 2011
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At this point, I'm glad this only was a weekend fix, and it didn't take a really long time. Thanks Joe!

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
7 August 2011
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Well I'm glad you only noticed it over the weekend! I've been doing stuff behind the scenes for most of the week, and things have been a bit hit-and-miss for a few days. I *think* everything's sorted now, finally.

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7 August 2011
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Wewt, it's back up! Thanks, Joe! apple01

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7 August 2011
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Joe said:

Well I'm glad you only noticed it over the weekend! I've been doing stuff behind the scenes for most of the week, and things have been a bit hit-and-miss for a few days. I *think* everything's sorted now, finally.

Well, traipsing around another country (well, part of another) does take away BB time. Glad it is sorted.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
7 August 2011
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Well it's working now. The css design wasn't working yesterday and when I logged in the site, I couldn't enter to the topics.

 

But it seems fine now. Thank you Joe!! We DO appreciate your work. Wish we could help more apple01apple01apple01

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8 August 2011
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Wooo! It's back up working normally now! Thanks Joe! apple01a-hard-days-night-john-6

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8 August 2011
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Joe said:

It seems to be missing certain bits – basic layout, etc.

Yes. It was. I'm glad it's back to normal now. (But I still can't go on my iPod. Every time I try to log in, Safari just quits) 

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

8 August 2011
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Hmm. Is that a new thing? Not sure why that would happen. I really need to set up a mobile version of the site.

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8 August 2011
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Joe said:

Hmm. Is that a new thing? Not sure why that would happen. I really need to set up a mobile version of the site.

I don't think it's the site. My suggestion is to fully shut down the iPod and then Restart it. It should work fine then. Safari on the iPod works stupid often. Check if you need to download any other versions of things.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
8 August 2011
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Joe said:

Hmm. Is that a new thing? Not sure why that would happen. I really need to set up a mobile version of the site.

Not really. It happens on other sites too. (But a mobile version would be nice. a-hard-days-night-george-10

mr. Sun king coming together said:

My suggestion is to fully shut down the iPod and then Restart it. It should work fine then. 

Thanks for the advice! I'll try it. :)

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

19 August 2011
5.12am
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HELP! I need somebody!

trying to post my review of the Beatles exhibit in the Rock Hall, but it just says "are you sure you want to do that? try again"

and then I lose my post. what. goes. on.

 

EDIT: nevermind. F5 is my friend.

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21 September 2011
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Are the main titles ("Fab Forum" lettering, etc.) supposed to be orange? Because that's how it's showing up on my computer. 

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25 September 2011
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Joe, did you fiddle with the link colour? It seems a bluer blue now.

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25 September 2011
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Yeah, I changed it slightly to make them stand out better. Visited links should be purple too.

BTW, am working on a mobile version. Unfortunately I can't get some of the site features to work properly – I won't bore with the details – but hopefully they can be fixed.

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11 October 2011
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OK, time for an update. An old colleague recently returned to my workplace for a web project. I got chatting to him and he's doing a bit of freelance work here and there, and I offered him some cash to redesign my website.

The site's current design is something I did a couple of years ago over a weekend. As I've said before, I'm a writer not a designer, and it shows – the site works OK, but it's clearly made by someone without a flair for design.

The current white design was because I originally wanted it to be fairly minimalist, as a nod to the White Album. It hasn't really worked out that way, as it's all too easy to keep throwing extra features, functions and navigation at a website.

Fortunately, my friend does web design, 3D modelling, animation and illustration in his spare time, so he's far more qualified to do this. He's starting work on a redesign, reworking it from the ground up, and it'll look a lot better. New banners, better typography, a whole rethink on where things are positioned on the screen. I might get rid of some things and add others – I'm not sure yet.

I've no idea how long it'll take, as we want to get it done properly (it's a portfolio project for him, so we both have a desire to make it as good as possible). One stipulation is that it has to work on mobile/tablet devices as well as normal web browsers, so it'll scale depending on the size of the screen you're viewing it on.

[Don't worry if this paragraph means nothing to you] For those who know a bit about web coding, the forum is built using html tables, meaning it can be clunky and awkward to redesign. Fortunately, Simple:Press (which is what this forum is based upon), are rebuilding their forum plugin from scratch, which should make it leaner and faster and will be built using <div> tags rather than tables. This will make it far easier to make it render well on a mobile. From what I understand, the new Simple:Press is going into beta in November, and it may take a little while longer for this site to switch over, so the redesign may be phased in over time. Hopefully the reworked forum software will also help with some of the weird functionality that people have experienced (trouble registering/logging in, caching issues etc), though I can't promise anything at this stage.

The current logo and picture frames at the top of the site were made by the brilliant Chris from The Beatles in 3D. However, I'm planning to start afresh. Here's a new banner idea that my designer friend put together – it's not finished, but his thoughts for it were:

The idea here is that the background would be one of several 60s style colourful patterns (this one was inspired by a sleeve from the galleries) and the foreground silhouettes would also randomly rotate with different figures (Abbey Road etc.) and recognisable portraits of the four at different points in their history.

It's just an early mockup, nothing's finished, and the "Not quite as popular as Jesus…" strapline will be retained. However, I wanted to share it with you to show that plans are afoot, and they'll (hopefully) be really good. Bear with me – I'll post another update when I have more to share.

I wasn't planning on opening this up to a general discussion, but if anyone's always thought "I wish the Beatles Bible did x and y", let me know and I'll see if it's feasible. Bear in mind that this is a redesign, and the content will largely remain the same, though over time (if I ever find any) I'd like to add more photos and videos to the site.

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11 October 2011
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Sounds good Joe, the new logo design looks like a belt (with a buckle), so you get The Beatles Bible Belt and then 'not quite as popular as Jesus".

 Will be interesting to see the new design when it is unveiled, i wonder if there will be drop down menu's, graphics you click on that take you places etc. Im sure you both will have fun designing it as you can then play around with bits and pieces and see what works well and what can be improved. (I have an HNC in web design so i understand in general about tables, codes etc, not that i took it any further – it bored me to my core as everything had to be done in an exact way, but i think that was more the tutors and not the subject overall).

Would like to also add that i have been on other beatle forums before and some are so damn awkward navigating from one thread to another that you just lose the will to live. Here is very straightforward to get about and was one of the reasons i settled here after the last beatles forum i was on disappeared into the internet black hole. There is little more off-putting than poor website navigation.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
11 October 2011
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Wow the site is designed with tables?? That's a lot of work!! So that means you're moving to CSS that's fantastic.

 

I like the new logo. I'll miss the banners though. Maybe you can use them in other feature in the site. Good luck!!

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