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Why is George under-appreciated?
10 July 2011
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(And I don't mean by you guys - just the general population)

I think most of you would admit that George is under-appreciated. When people think of the Beatles, they normally say, "John, Paul, Ringo, and whatever that last guys name is." Why?

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
10 July 2011
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He wasnt very outspoken on issues like John was, and wasnt the "cute" Beatle as Paul was seen. Mainly thoughHis song catalogue isnt a large or impressive as Paul or John, as far as writing is concerned. George was the best guitar player in the group and should be celebrated for that. He has maybe an album and half worth of songs from being with The Beatles.

 

I think he did well as a solo artist, but so did John and Paul. I dont think any solo album put out by any Beatle can match up with Imagine. He benefited from being around John and Paul, seeing the music they wrote together. Being aroung that and witnessing that creative process helped George in writing songs.

 

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10 July 2011
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My French teacher at school, to someone in my class: "Your name's James Harrison? The singer in The Beatles was called James Harrison."
Chorus of voices: "That was George Harrison."
Me: "And he wasn't the main singer either."

She looked a bit embarrassed.

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10 July 2011
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 That's true. Most of my students can identify John and Paul, but if I have in my netbook a wallpaper with a photo of George, they ask "Who's that?"

 

Maybe because he didn't have a "popular" career post-Beatles?

 

BTW I would have said to that boy "Ahh you have 2 names Beatles related!!" a-hard-days-night-paul-5a-hard-days-night-george-8

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11 July 2011
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mithveaen said:

Most of my students can identify John and Paul, but if I have in my netbook a wallpaper with a photo of George, they ask "Who's that?"

Wait. They're your students. How can they not recognize George?

 

BoT... 

I'm not really sure. Maybe it's because he only had one or two songs per album. The most songs he ever had on a Beatles album was four. Even though the songs were good ("Think For Yourself," "I Want to Tell You," "I Me Mine," etc.), there just weren't very many of them. (That were released with the Beatles.) If they had put more George songs on the albums, George might be more well-known. 

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11 July 2011
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Just the students from a new class....

 

I guess you're right. Besides Lennon/McCartney is almost a synonym of Beatles....

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11 July 2011
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Well... I think just about every music buff knows him. And every Guitarist knows him. But non Beatles fans that don't know much about music (BTW if you are a music buff.... You like The Beatles a-hard-days-night-george-7) don't know him because they don't usually look at George as a legend (EVEN THOUGH HE IS) like they see John or Paul... That being said, George was a guitar legend he can be identified in the same category as people like Eric Clapton, Jimmy Hendrix, Keith Richards, Or Jimmy Page. Beatles fans, (Good) music fans, and Guitar players (or enthusiasts) all appreciate George as a great musician.

 

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11 July 2011
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I also think, it is because his name is more common. George, a common first name, and Harrison, a common last name, so people forget it more easily. It is such a shame, George is amazing. :I

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11 July 2011
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Now you got a good point there.

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11 July 2011
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Most people would be underappreciated in a band with John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Ringo is remembered because he has a much more accessible personality than most rock stars.

But generally, people who aren't the "stars" of the band are forgotten. Page, Plant, Bonham, and… the bassist. Mercury, May, Taylor and… the bassist. Jagger, Richards, Jones and… those other blokes. Townshend, Daltrey, Moon and… the bassist. Joey, Dee Dee, Johnny and…. the drummer. Lennon, McCartney, Ringo and… the guitarist. I could go on.

 

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11 July 2011
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The Walrus said:

Most people would be underappreciated in a band with John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Ringo is remembered because he has a much more accessible personality than most rock stars.

But generally, people who aren't the "stars" of the band are forgotten. Page, Plant, Bonham, and… the bassist. Mercury, May, Taylor and… the bassist. Jagger, Richards, Jones and… those other blokes. Townshend, Daltrey, Moon and… the bassist. Joey, Dee Dee, Johnny and…. the drummer. Lennon, McCartney, Ringo and… the guitarist. I could go on.

I guess, even though that is still stupid.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
11 July 2011
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George never sought the lime light. He was happy sitting in the back playing guitar and adding his part to the songs. 

Imagine taking out all his guitar work in Beatle songs. It would have been an entirely different sound. George always played to the songs and was never a flashy player. He was concerned about his privacy and did not charm the press. This is a disaster for killing your image. I have a lot of respect for him that he stood his ground and never succumbed to being a pop star. 

He was never into being famous and once said that 'I never wanted to be a star, just wanted to play guitar'

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11 July 2011
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That's why he was the Quiet Beatle. a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

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11 July 2011
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Inner Light said:

He was concerned about his privacy and did not charm the press. This is a disaster for killing your image. I have a lot of respect for him that he stood his ground and never succumbed to being a pop star. 

I don't know, he did quite a bit of media in the 80's (at least for the times). 

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
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The Walrus said:

Reporter: Did The Beatles influence you?

Paul Simon: No.

Reporter: Did they influence Art Garfunkel?

Paul Simon: Who?

Bahahahahahaha brian-epstein

For some reason, I found that a lot funnier than I normally would. 

I love the way that in the bands you mentioned, nobody remembered the bassist or the drummer, but in the Beatles, they remembered both but forgot the guitarist. 

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12 July 2011
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I used to ask my older friends this question when I was a small kid. She explained that Paul and John made the most news, being the songwriters and all, filling the papers and everything. And Like what some of you guys have said, it was always Lennon/McCartney that was popular in the Beatles. Though, I find that George is not totally in the shadows, you know? 

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12 July 2011
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George was pretty chill. He wasn't making big drama like John and Yoko and all that. Everyone seemed to pay more attention to that while George was doing his thing.a-hard-days-night-george-9

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12 July 2011
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oneafter909 said:

I used to ask my older friends this question when I was a small kid. She explained that Paul and John made the most news, being the songwriters and all, filling the papers and everything.  

That answer is pretty much in line with what I was thinking. I'll take it a step further. The general public are sheep with A.D.D.

It was said several times upthread that J & P were more in the limelight and rightfully so as their songwriting was incredible. Therefore, the public saw (for the most part) Lennon/McCartney and those other guys. Only the real music and/or Beatles lovers like those found in this Forum truly appreciated what G & R brought to the party.

The general public, on the other hand did not. Those are the same people who bought lava lamps in the 60's, liked disco in the late 70's, wore Boy George make-up to dance clubs in the 80's and danced The Macarena in the 90's.

You know...sheep.

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12 July 2011
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Actually what Inner Light said it's true. George never wanted the limelight. Paul loves it (which it's not bad), and John, well, John Lennon is such a big elephant that even standing quiet in a room you are like "Look!! John Lennon!!" a-hard-days-night-john-6

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To say Harrison was quiet is bullshit. Remember this quote when you think of George as this quiet guy: He was always called the quiet one, but anyone who knew him knew that once he started there was no way you could shut him up”. He played the media. He wasn't some shy kid. None of them liked the fame. I saw on the front page a quote on John's that I can't remember but was about fame. I want to find that quote. But the quiet Beatles thing is false.

Edit: Zig, you forgot "and like Justin Beiber now". And that is why we need Zig to post more. 

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