The Beatles Bible - Topic: This is probably a controversial topic, but~

meanmistermustard on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:48:52 +0000

The feel of the songs would have been different and very few people can see how the songs could be improved upon from alternate drumming patterns so it would have mattered. Change the drums on ADITL and you get a very different song which i doubt would be anywhere as good.

unknown on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:17:40 +0000

meanmistermustard said
Ringo was just as lucky as the others were in finding each other, its just the timing that makes it look like he was more fortunate. John, Paul and especially George preferred Ringo but they had Pete, Ringo had Rory Storm, loyalty was a big thing and they didnt want to sack anyone themselves. Their hand was forced in George Martin wanting a session drummer in but George H had been trying to get Pete ousted for a while and it all fitted.

And Ringo added something very creative and inventive to their songs. Substitute his drumming on tracks like Rain, Strawberry Fields, A ...

meanmistermustard on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:55:37 +0000

Ringo was just as lucky as the others were in finding each other, its just the timing that makes it look like he was more fortunate. John, Paul and especially George preferred Ringo but they had Pete, Ringo had Rory Storm, loyalty was a big thing and they didnt want to sack anyone themselves. Their hand was forced in George Martin wanting a session drummer in but George H had been trying to get Pete ousted for a while and it all fitted.

And Ringo added something very creative and inventive to their songs. Substitute his drumming on tracks like Rain, Strawberry Fields, A Day In The ...

unknown on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:55:24 +0000

Ringo was lucky to be in The Beatles. Sure, you could say they were all lucky to have met each other, but it's just different. They had a drummer before Ringo, and if George Martin hadn't minded him, then John, Paul, and George would not have bothered to kick him out. That's not a dig at Ringo's drumming, but he wasn't writing their hits. They could have just the same used a session musician to play the drums on their albums or something like that. Yeah, there are many songs where Ringo's drumming makes them even better, but if they ...

Linde on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:08:31 +0000

Can't tell if sarcastic or not.

I don't think you can really compare them, they were all good with different styles imo

Also, I always hate to read about ''how one of them was so lucky to be in the Beatles''. They were all lucky they met each other.

meanmistermustard on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:48:28 +0000

Paul plays all the drums on the Band on the Run lp, his most successful, best received and most praised album, but hired a drummer for Wings and rarely plays them live, if ever.

Maybe he should have been the drummer in the Beatles. Maybe Paul could have been The Beatles on his own after all.

Inner Light on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:11:56 +0000

Funny Paper said
I gave a listen to Harrison's album "33-1/3" -- and let's say I was rather underwhelmed. Also, I didn't hear any particularly virtuoso guitar playing. Sure, he has a nice touch with the slide guitar, a signature sound no one else has. But that album doesn't establish he's better than Paul at guitar.

I personally think that the guitar playing on this album is excellent. What makes a great guitarist: playing fast lead solos and having a bit of flash in their playing or playing to the song and adding just what is needed to help the ...

Funny Paper on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:09:30 +0000

I gave a listen to Harrison's album "33-1/3" -- and let's say I was rather underwhelmed. Also, I didn't hear any particularly virtuoso guitar playing. Sure, he has a nice touch with the slide guitar, a signature sound no one else has. But that album doesn't establish he's better than Paul at guitar.

Inner Light on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:03:40 +0000

unknown said
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Inner Light said

As I have said before, if Paul was a better guitarist than George, he would have been the lead guitar player in The Beatles.

That is wrong, because they needed a bass player, which nobody else was willing to become, and Paul was a better bassist than George anyhowdy.

Here is a link where McCartney talks about Harrison's guitar playing and how they wanted a good guitarist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....20SoS2Z9dI

Also, it's interesting how many fans especially on this tread try to make McCartney the best guitar player of ...

unknown on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:21:40 +0000

Inner Light said

As I have said before, if Paul was a better guitarist than George, he would have been the lead guitar player in The Beatles.

That is wrong, because they needed a bass player, which nobody else was willing to become, and Paul was a better bassist than George anyhowdy.

Holsety on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:57:52 +0000

I should probably state I have great respect for Paul as a bassist. He is madfingers on stage, especially playing stuff like All My Loving and Long Tall Sally; he could have been plucking one note and it wouldn't have made a difference.

Inner Light on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:27:24 +0000

Holsety said
The problem with stating Paul was a better guitarist brings up a couple problems.

During Wings and sometimes solo albums, he would have session guitarists or bandmates play guitar, and he would stick with bass; why? Well, because he was a much more proficient bassist. He would have played the Too Many People solo himself if he were..

George, as far as I know, played all of the guitar parts from his solo career himself. He would have others playing bass like Klaus Voorman and pianists and the like because he was primarily a guitarist. John brought George in ...

Holsety on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:08:56 +0000

The problem with stating Paul was a better guitarist brings up a couple problems.

During Wings and sometimes solo albums, he would have session guitarists or bandmates play guitar, and he would stick with bass; why? Well, because he was a much more proficient bassist. He would have played the Too Many People solo himself if he were..
George, as far as I know, played all of the guitar parts from his solo career himself. He would have others playing bass like Klaus Voorman and pianists and the like because he was primarily a guitarist. John brought George in to play guitar ...

Inner Light on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:18:48 +0000

Funny Paper said

Inner Light said

Funny Paper said

His quality output simply wasn't as prodigious as John and Paul's, and while he was uniquely talented on the guitar, he wasn't quite as accomplished as John and Paul on guitar (let alone piano, bass, etc.).

Have to disagree with you on this one. George was a very good guitar player, much more accomplished than John and Paul. As a matter of fact, George taught John how to play. Watch the 'Living in the material world' documentary. Paul talks about George's guitar playing. He mentions that they needed a really ...

RunForYourLife on This is probably a controversial topic, but~

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:15:19 +0000

George was a really solid rockabilly player, the problem was that he got tired of that style between "Beatles For Sale" and "Help!" but he had trouble breaking from it and finding a new style.

It's kind of funny how he could struggle with an easy solo like "I'll Follow The Sun" but flawlessly pull off something more intricate like "She's A Woman" or "Run For Your Life" (You can tell that he's really having a good time on the latter). I think this demonstrates that it wasn't a lack of skill, he was just struggling to come up with his ...