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George Harrison Most Talented Beatle?
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acmac said

I agree, but then John never did again, either. His solo career was not particularly innovative or diverse, musically. If we only had the Beatles catalogue to look at, it would make sense to argue that John was more experimental than Paul, but when you take their solo years into account, the argument doesn't really stand up, IMO.

But you have to take into account all the really weird music John did in collaboration with Yoko too, like Two Virgins and Fly and Life With The Lions. If you consider that stuff, John's solo career seems at least as far-reaching as (the first ten years of) Paul's, if not more.

[Also you could call John's album-by-album trajectory "experimental" in the pejorative sense, in that he seemed to be grasping. Regular rock album followed by radical-politics album followed by soft rock followed by modern rock again followed by oldies album, etc.]

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Von Bontee said

But you have to take into account all the really weird music John did in collaboration with Yoko too, like Two Virgins and Fly and Life With The Lions. If you consider that stuff, John's solo career seems at least as far-reaching as (the first ten years of) Paul's, if not more. 

[Also you could call John's album-by-album trajectory "experimental" in the pejorative sense, in that he seemed to be grasping. Regular rock album followed by radical-politics album followed by soft rock followed by modern rock again followed by oldies album, etc.]

You're right! I was completely disregarding TV and LwtL, since I personally find no artistic value in them, and in fact they strike me as totally posturing and inauthentic -- "grasping" is a good word. But that's just my opinion. However I do kinda like the Fly album, though I think of that as being much more a Yoko than a John project.

 

 

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Yeah, huge portions of those three "out there" albums are pretty unlistenable, especially Two Virgins. But I do dig Fly and "Cambridge 1969", and "John And Yoko" has its "charms". And as for the rest, well, it's out there!

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All you have to do is read Paul McCartney's own words in the book "Living In The Material World" by Olivia Harrison, which accompanied the release of the movie directed by Martin Scorcese. Paul says, "George was the best guitar player in the band. I mean we were all good, but he was lead guitar". It was Tom Petty who said that he always disagreed with the way George Martin turned down the lead guitar into the background on Beatle records and brought forth the rhythm guitar. If you listen he is right. But as George said they all have apologized to me over the years,  not meaning John, who was dead. And it was Eric Clapton who said George's music spoke more to him than Lennon/McCartney. But lets face it they were all great.

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He was an incredible and unique talent, although not necessarily the greatest in the Beatles. What does talent measure to, anyway? George was barely the average singer, never the Jimi Hendrix guitar player, nor the best lyricist, but yet he still somehow managed to come up with Here Comes The Sun out of the most basic of chords. His guitar playing was quite simple but equally unique. He always gave a touch to perfect every song. I always list Dig A Pony as an example, as I find all the guitar solo work incredible, and yet so simple.
Vocally, he could never out-do John and especially Paul. But I honestly doubt that either of them could have sang Something or While My Guitar Gently Weeps better than George did.
George wrote some pretty awesome riffs, but those do not include the riff from I Feel Fine and Day Tripper; just the two examples that came to my head.
He wrote amazing lyrics as well, 'I Me Mine' for example, but John wrote Strawberry Fields Forever and Paul wrote Yesterday and Ringo wrote Octopus's Garden (ok, ok, I admit it doesn't measure up). 

What I'm trying to say is, that he was better and worse equally than the other members. Its all comes down to the idea and inspiration each of them had at the moment, and each of them wrote incomparably incredible songs.

They all possessed talents, but those talents reached their high points only when combined together.  

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