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George Harrison Most Talented Beatle?
8 January 2013
11.52am
bewareofchairs
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meanmistermustard said
I think its incredibly unfair on George to measure him up against what John and Paul wrote during the time of the Beatles, especially in quantity. Within You, Without You is so much heavier in terms of content and lyrics than anything Paul wrote on Pepper possibly with the exception of "I'd love to turn you on" from A Day In The Life. The songs George wrote during the White Album period are just as good as most of what John and Paul wrote and the same can be said for Revolver and Abbey Road, Something and Here Comes The Sun being two of the best tracks on that release. And not everything John and Paul wrote pre-Revolver was immense so you cant throw that at George.

As for solo is Johns catalogue that much better than George's? Most people say yes but when asked for examples theyve only heard All Things Must Pass and if anything a selection of 'hits', much else is based on the preconception as written in the press that theyre dull, dreary and uninspired which, to be polite, is complete bollocks. John's preconception is that he was amazing and his solo work is incredible, outside of Imagine, POB but do many other albums hold up as being classics? Thats not meant to be an attack on John, im a huge fan of Johns solo work, there is a heck of a lot of great music that pass folks by, but the same is true for George. The same as not everything Paul has released is mindblowing, there are many tracks that dont stand up to the standards Paul has set (tho Paul deserves far more credit for his catalogue than many are willing to give).

 

I agree with all of this. It's not fair to compare what George did during The Beatles to John and Paul because they started earlier, were able to help each other, had all of George Martin's attention and were allowed as many takes as they needed. George was pretty much on his own aside from getting the odd bit of advice, and it seems like his lack of songs had more to do with their egos than his songwriting ability, as was made evident by All Things Must Pass (the album) and Sour Milk Sea.

8 January 2013
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unknown said 
You think John is better than Paul, but they are equals. That would all be an opinion, even saying they're equally talented is an opinion.

John and George's solo careers are pretty equal, but I think I like George's more, because I really only like half of Some Time In New York City, Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey. Also, George put out All Things Must Pass, and Living In The Material World, which are pretty fantastic albums, I should say.

Of course it is an opinion, but generally accepted opinion. Do you ever hear someone appreciate George more than John or Paul by musical critics, general audience? Lennon/McCartney is the most successful musical partnership, and that is a fact.  Someone can think Beatles suck, and that is opinion, but is it generally accepted opinion? Definitely not. I like George and I think he was very talented musician, but I couldn't never compare him to John or Paul. 

 

So by half you mean when you take off Yoko from the album :D .

 

 

meanmistermustard said 
Why isnt Rock and Roll an album?

I agree that John had a good output but Mind Games, Walls and Bridges, Rock and Roll and half of Double Fantasy are equal to what George put out in Thirty Three and 1/3, Brainwashed, George Harrison, Living In The Material World and Somewhere In England. Gone Troppo has its highlights too (Wake Up My Love, Thats The way It Goes, I Really Love You, Mystical One, and the title track) and i havent heard Dark Horse or Extra Texture in a good while because they arent commercially available. Cloud 9 and All Things Must Pass are an equal match with Imagine and POB.

 

 

Because those are cover of old rock n roll songs. As for comparing Imagine and POB to Cloud 9 and ATMP, it once again comes to personal preference  but songs like Working Class Hero, Imagine, Look At Me, Jealous Guy, Isolation, Mind Games, Woman, Love, Out of Blue, Nobody Loves You, Watching the Wheels etc… to me personally they just can't be compared, but of course we all have different taste.

 

 

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8 January 2013
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Long John Silver said

unknown said 
You think John is better than Paul, but they are equals. That would all be an opinion, even saying they're equally talented is an opinion.

John and George's solo careers are pretty equal, but I think I like George's more, because I really only like half of Some Time In New York City, Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey. Also, George put out All Things Must Pass, and Living In The Material World, which are pretty fantastic albums, I should say.

Of course it is an opinion, but generally accepted opinion. Do you ever hear someone appreciate George more than John or Paul by musical critics, general audience? Lennon/McCartney is the most successful musical partnership, and that is a fact.  Someone can think Beatles suck, and that is opinion, but is it generally accepted opinion? Definitely not. I like George and I think he was very talented musician, but I couldn't never compare him to John or Paul. 

So by half you mean when you take off Yoko from the album :D .

Pretty much, yeah. The only exception is Luck of the Irish, I like her voice for that song.

 

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9 January 2013
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Haha but that is not fair then :D . And yeah, it is not bad on that song, oh and We are all water it is not that bad either.

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9 April 2013
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Depends what defines talent really. None of the Beatles were the most talented at their instruments, in the world. Some may argue Paul was a pioneer on the Bass etc. but all in all, they were great because of their talent at making great songs. It is as simple as that. And if that is what their great talent was then, then I suppose that it was a collective talent. Though as far as the Beatles success goes, yes, it was 4 corners to the square (as McCartney says) – but the huge success in my opinion can mostly be attributed to the talented songwriting combination of John and Paul. George came into his own towards the latter era of the Beatles and certainly reached their level of songwriting with such strokes of genius as Something, Here comes the sun etc. and was a remarkable man.

Post-Beatles he certainly had a debut solo to match anyone…

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