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George Harrison Most Talented Beatle?
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

He's not. Okay. He's just not. I love him, I do, but to say he's more talented as Paul McCartney is lunacy. Could George drum anything half decent? Was he prolific at bass, as Paul was with guitar? Could he also play piano? The answer is no, to all of these. He could play half decently (or better) 3 instruments: Guitar, bass, Sitar. Paul could play at least a half dozen: Bass, guitar, drums, piano, organ, trumpet. It strikes me (with no malice intent) that people ignore some crucial facts at times, this being a prime example. It's crazy to me.

Just look at this post. It proves that musically, Paul was better. He was more prolific at more instruments. And that is beyond dispute.

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Well. Yeah, I guess Paul did play more instruments than George, but that doesn't make a person a better songwirter. I mean, I'm not saying Paul or Lennon were bad songwriters, just think George's songs are better. And, it's obvious that George is a better guitarist. So I'll just stick to my opinion and you can stick to yours. a-hard-days-night-george-8

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15 August 2011
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But saying he's the most talented and saying he's the better songwriter (which I kinda agree with – I'll get to this later) are so fundementally different I don't know where to start. Talent encompasses everything – and therefore to sagged most talented but admit Paul was better instrumentally is shocking. I'm not anti George, nor pro Paul. That being said, If you believe that George is the better isn't crazy. But to think that George is better overall because he is better at what he should be better at (guitar), well, that's strange. Let's do a compare and contrast. Which is better: Paul's guitar work or George's bass work? Paul. Who was better at drums? Paul. Who could actually play piano? Paul. All these make me wonder about a statement that George is the most talented.

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Yeah…sorry. I never meant to say that George was better overall. I think George is a better guitarist and songwriter. If you add that up, it wouldn't matter that Paul plays more instruments.

I hope that wasn't confusing. I'm not great at debates.a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 I dunno. I just know that man was smoking hot. a-hard-days-night-george-10

 

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I think generally, whoever your favorite Beatle is, is the one you think is the most talented. Obviously I think Paul is the most talented. I think if you compare song-for-song on every album every one of them did, together and apart, Paul would just come out as the one with the best material…but that is because I enjoy his music the most. Do I think he has some dud lyrics? Sure, as does every artist at one time or another. However, it amazes me when I look up information on his songs and find all the instruments he plays. Sometimes they are just random, like a toy glockenspiel or the flugelhorn. He has those weird wind chime things (not sure exactly what they are called) on Electric Arguments, and they sound great. I mean, anyone could bang around on them and make some noise, but he makes them sound good. I think they are all talented, though. I just happen to like Paul and his contributions to the musical world better. Also, he's yummy.

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George was pretty cute, but if you ask me who's the hottest, I'd say Paul.a-hard-days-night-george-1Sorry Georgie!

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All of the Beatles were talented in different ways. Although he is my favorite, I wouldn't say that George was the most talented, but he was the best looking Beatle, and the best guitar player in the band. ahdn_george_08heart

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Most talented? For George fans he probably is.

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I started this tread a long time ago. I should have called it 'George Is The Most Innovative Beatle' which I truly believe. 

There was always something about George that I have always liked, from his humbleness as a musician, having spiritual connotations in most of his solo songs and the fact that he never sold out and wanted to be a pop star. I do not think there is anything wrong with wanting to be famous. To each his own but for me, I feel you should be who you really are, love God and be thankful for whatever talent he gave you. I love all the Beatles but George is my favorite.

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George Harrison is the most talented Beatle? No way. I think Paul is for sure the most talented Beatle. Although most would probably disagree, I don't think George was even all that much greater than Paul on guitar (especially acoustic). Paul could also play so many other instruments well. Also, George's songwriting wasn't really up there with John and Paul's until at least Pepper's, but even then he only had one song on the album. If John and Paul were only getting one or two songs an album they wouldn't have any songs that are only "good." 
 
You say that you should have called the thread "George Is the Most Innovative Beatle," instead of "Most Talented Beatle." Innovative means creative and original, so can you please explain to me why he is more innovative than John and Paul? I can't understand that. 
 
George never wanted to become famous, or be a pop star? What do you think The Beatles are?! George was the one Beatle who had the most faith that they would make it big and become famous, so why would he be putting faith in something that he did't want? Aren't a few of his post Beatles albums pop, too (ATMP, LITMW, Traveling Wilburys stuff, Cloud 9)?
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As far as i can remember John gave George the credit for keeping the heads up and the 3 plodding on during the dark days of little progress and shit gigs that few punters turned up to in the middle of whoknowswhere. George wanted a degree of fame and money as much as John and Paul its just that the constraints of Beatlemania with the insanity and claustrophobia brought resentment for years, tho its important to note that they didnt play just for the money as they earned little for years, especially in Germany. They worked their asses off for 3/4 years before they started getting paid well. George grew up quickly and his discovery of India and God changed what he believed were more important.

 

As for who was the most talented or innovative, i dont know. Im sure if we started creating lists all 4 (and yes i include Ringo) would have content that would be debated for many months as to what was more invaluable and greater.

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7 January 2013
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George could actually play 26 instruments, and he was a much more talented/innovative guitarist than he often gets credit for. I think Paul is technically more talented, but his songs lacked something for me. What I liked about George is that he could write a great melody like Paul and meaningful lyrics like John.

I don't know about songwriting, but he was more innovative than John and Paul in terms of his contributions on the guitar. He seamlessly combined elements of jazz, rock, rockabilly, R&B, and in the later days the influence of Indian music to create unusual chord progressions and a very unique sound for the time. He was also the one who put backwards guitar on I'm Only Sleeping and Tomorrow Never Knows. Oh, and he was the one who introduced The Beatles to the Moog Synthesizer and was one of the first musicians to use it.

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George Harrison is the most talented Beatle? No way. I think Paul is for sure the most talented Beatle. Although most would probably disagree, I don't think George was even all that much greater than Paul on guitar (especially acoustic). Paul could also play so many other instruments well. Also, George's songwriting wasn't really up there with John and Paul's until at least Pepper's, but even then he only had one song on the album. If John and Paul were only getting one or two songs an album they wouldn't have any songs that are only "good." 
 
Which Beatle is the most talented. Each of the four is very talented in there own way. It is all an opinion. I'm sure which ever Beatle is your favorite would be your most talented of the four. We always like to promote who we respect and love the most. As far as playing different instruments, George was able to play 26 instruments. Regarding songwriting ability, George has pointed out that John and Paul got rid of all there bad songs in the early days so by the time they were writing in say, 1963, they had good tunes. George decided to start his writing with 'Don't Bother me' so he needed a little time to get up to par with J&P.
 
You say that you should have called the thread "George Is the Most Innovative Beatle," instead of "Most Talented Beatle." Innovative means creative and original, so can you please explain to me why he is more innovative than John and Paul? I can't understand that. 
 
Harrison was very innovative. He came up with the idea for backwards guitar, brought in the Sitar which in 1965 was very innovative and bold. The whole India period of the Beatles career which included all of them change the way they wrote their songs. Harrison merged east and west music and helped bring Ravi Shankar to the west. Bangladesh was the first full scale charity concert which set the standard for all the other concerts that were done like Farm Aid for example.
 
George never wanted to become famous, or be a pop star? What do you think The Beatles are?! George was the one Beatle who had the most faith that they would make it big and become famous, so why would he be putting faith in something that he did't want? Aren't a few of his post Beatles albums pop, too (ATMP, LITMW, Traveling Wilburys stuff, Cloud 9)?
 
Harrison wanted to be successful and make more money just like the other three did. They all had fun in the beginning but as time wore on, they became less interested. George has said that the problems started because the Beatles got too big. He was the humble one standing in the middle between to ego's. He said in his 'LITMW' documentary that Paul said once to him that 'we are the grooves and you better watch it' (referring to him and John) Every album has songs that are going to fit in the pop/rock type of genre. I never said that Harrison did not write pop songs. What I did say is he didn't sell out. He didn't believe in playing the game but believed in being true to himself.
 
 
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I think its incredibly unfair on George to measure him up against what John and Paul wrote during the time of the Beatles, especially in quantity. Within You, Without You is so much heavier in terms of content and lyrics than anything Paul wrote on Pepper possibly with the exception of "I'd love to turn you on" from A Day In The Life. The songs George wrote during the White Album period are just as good as most of what John and Paul wrote and the same can be said for Revolver and Abbey Road, Something and Here Comes The Sun being two of the best tracks on that release. And not everything John and Paul wrote pre-Revolver was immense so you cant throw that at George.

As for solo is Johns catalogue that much better than George's? Most people say yes but when asked for examples theyve only heard All Things Must Pass and if anything a selection of 'hits', much else is based on the preconception as written in the press that theyre dull, dreary and uninspired which, to be polite, is complete bollocks. John's preconception is that he was amazing and his solo work is incredible, outside of Imagine, POB but do many other albums hold up as being classics? Thats not meant to be an attack on John, im a huge fan of Johns solo work, there is a heck of a lot of great music that pass folks by, but the same is true for George. The same as not everything Paul has released is mindblowing, there are many tracks that dont stand up to the standards Paul has set (tho Paul deserves far more credit for his catalogue than many are willing to give).

 

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Inner Light said

Harrison was very innovative. He came up with the idea for backwards guitar, brought in the Sitar which in 1965 was very innovative and bold. The whole India period of the Beatles career which included all of them change the way they wrote their songs. Harrison merged east and west music and helped bring Ravi Shankar to the west. Bangladesh was the first full scale charity concert which set the standard for all the other concerts that were done like Farm Aid for example.

Oh, yeah, I could see why you think that now. I don't know why, but I didn't think about India. Still don't agree, but to each their own, I guess.

Harrison wanted to be successful and make more money just like the other three did. They all had fun in the beginning but as time wore on, they became less interested. George has said that the problems started because the Beatles got too big. He was the humble one standing in the middle between two ego's. He said in his 'LITMW' documentary that Paul said once to him that 'we are the grooves and you better watch it' (referring to him and John) Every album has songs that are going to fit in the pop/rock type of genre. I never said that Harrison did not write pop songs. What I did say is he didn't sell out. He didn't believe in playing the game but believed in being true to himself.

 

 

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Well as from my point of view, the most talented with instruments was Paul for sure, as for songwriting abilities, John and Paul were equals, but my personal preference of John. But that is just preference, in reality both of them were equally talented. As for George, he was talented and good guitar player, but I can't really see him as more talented than John or Paul. I have to admit the sitar part was a great idea, and backwards thing was John's first idea per say, but nevermind. TBH I don't like that big influence Indian music had on George, and I still can't get into WYWY, I just can't. His solo music to me is also not better than John or Paul.

 

"John's preconception is that he was amazing and his solo work is incredible, outside of Imagine, POB but do many other albums hold up as being classics?"

 

Well out of 6 albums, 3 are very good (I didn't count R'n'R as album), which is not bad at all.

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Why isnt Rock and Roll an album?

I agree that John had a good output but Mind Games, Walls and Bridges, Rock and Roll and half of Double Fantasy are equal to what George put out in Thirty Three and 1/3, Brainwashed, George Harrison, Living In The Material World and Somewhere In England. Gone Troppo has its highlights too (Wake Up My Love, Thats The way It Goes, I Really Love You, Mystical One, and the title track) and i havent heard Dark Horse or Extra Texture in a good while because they arent commercially available. Cloud 9 and All Things Must Pass are an equal match with Imagine and POB.

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You think John is better than Paul, but they are equals. That would all be an opinion, even saying they're equally talented is an opinion.

John and George's solo careers are pretty equal, but I think I like George's more, because I really only like half of Some Time In New York City, Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey. Also, George put out All Things Must Pass, and Living In The Material World, which are pretty fantastic albums, I should say.

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To be honest I think John's output as a solo artist is the weakest of the 3, but that's just my opinion. 

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