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Extra Texture & Dark Horse
18 June 2012
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Found Extra Texture in my cd collection (never knew i had it) and it got me wondering - why hasnt it or Dark Horse been remastered and reissued? Regardless of whether theyre any good or not they deserve to be available to buy in updated sound quality. 

If you can can reissue Johns Some Time In New York City then Extra Texture and Dark Horse should also be available to buy in all good stockists and via legal download.

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It´s a big Q/mark for me too. Dark Horse might have the shadow of his master´s voice on it, still it has great material and George felt very good about Extra Texture, so how come it´s been left out, it´s one of those Harrison mysteries.

3 August 2012
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meanmistermustard said

Extra Texture and Dark Horse should also be available to buy in all good stockists and via legal download.

Well, if they're not available for downloading LEGALLY...

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3 August 2012
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vonbontee said

meanmistermustard said

Extra Texture and Dark Horse should also be available to buy in all good stockists and via legal download.

Well, if they're not available for downloading LEGALLY...

Indeed von, just sad that thats the only way you can get them. And they wonder why folks download illegally.
However the albums wouldn't have remastered sound surely?

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Back catalogue for a lot of their CDs is dismal - I would love to have these 2 more readily available, as well as some Paul CDs like Flowers in the Dirt.

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Go out and find a used copy of Dark Horse on vinyl. I thought pretty little of most of the album except for a couple songs, but when I listened to it on on vinyl I enjoyed the whole thing the whole way through. Plus that album's artwork is great.

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WhereArtEsteban said
Go out and find a used copy of Dark Horse on vinyl. I thought pretty little of most of the album except for a couple songs, but when I listened to it on on vinyl I enjoyed the whole thing the whole way through. Plus that album's artwork is great.

I sold the vinyl long ago and there is no road back.  However, I agree with you on the artwork - as a package it all works really well.

 

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Dark Hoarse. Has anyone made that pun before? I'm sure they have. Anyway, this is one of my favorite albums, despite the hoarseness.

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11 July 2014
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Dark Horse is my least favourite George album, don't really enjoy any tracks on it but Ding Dong, Ding Dong and the title track (sometimes 'It Is He (Jai Sri Krishna)' if I'm in the right mood). I don't mind George's voice, its just the songs are mundane and you plod through them slowly.

Whereas Extra Texture I quite like, it's a decent album which I listen to on rainy days or ah Grey Cloudy ones...

 

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I haven't listened to Dark Horse yet, but I personally find Extra Texture pretty boring besides You, Tired of Midnight Blue, and His Name is Legs. I'll have to give it another try though, because to be fair I wasn't listening too closely to it. (And many albums have taken me multiple listens to like.)

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12 July 2014
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meanmistermustard said
Found Extra Texture in my cd collection (never knew i had it) and it got me wondering - why hasnt it or Dark Horse been remastered and reissued? Regardless of whether theyre any good or not they deserve to be available to buy in updated sound quality. 

If you can can reissue Johns Some Time In New York City then Extra Texture and Dark Horse should also be available to buy in all good stockists and via legal download.

And this still remains a good question.  The following was on the GH site in 2007 and of course the 'remainder' of the albums were never re-released in a remastered format:

"Parlophone is proud to announce the digital release of George Harrison’s solo catalogue which will be available from October 9th. Nine albums will initially be made available and the remainder will follow online in the new year. The release of these albums means that all four Beatles’ solo catalogues are now available digitally."

And don't get me started again on the availability of Ringo's albums :)

12 July 2014
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Listening to ExTex (no, not you @Expert Textpert !) right now for the first time...

 

First track, "You"...isn't so bad. Not bad, but not really good either. Paul did a better and wittier and more danceable "I love you..." song a year or so later, and I really don't like that mid-70s session-guys sound. The tune is nice in an "What Is Life" way, but not terribly memorable. Terribly UNmemorable instrumental break - I heard that limp saxophone solo begin, and within a few seconds guessed "Don't tell me...Tom Scott." Looked it up. It was. 

EDIT: Oh, no...did some more research and discovered that this album has DAVID FOSTER on it. This record's gonna be a dog, if not a dead one. Sorry, George... :(

 

Next track, "The Answer's at the End", doesn't do much for me either. It's long and sectional, which is interesting; but George keeps singing "Isn't it a pity...", reminding me of that earlier ATMP song, and the melody even less memorable than "You". Mostly a soul-gospel-easy listening dirge, boring but with a halfway interesting spacey Pink Floydish interlude. Goes on pretty Long, Long, Long.

"This Guitar Can't Keep From Crying", great song title (the first time.) Ooh, Moog bass! Envelope-filter lead guitar parts from (looks it up) George and Jesse Ed Davis! The technology used makes me happy in a 70s way (my favourite way!). Tune's pretty good, but it keeps reminding me of some other song, what can it be..."The Happy Guitar" by Clay Green! Wait, no...

"Ooh Babe (You Know That I Love You") - Oh man, this is bad. Attempted (I think) 70s style soft soul. I have a limited taste for the actual made-in-USA variety, as it is. And again with the songs built on "I LOVE YOU"? (Making this the 4th song in a row, out of 4, that can't help but remind me of some other song, unfortunately)

"World of Stone" is a tedious slow plod with some more nice lead guitar bits scattered throughout, too low in the mix to hear easily.

"A Bit More of You" - hey it's the opening track again for a half-minute or so! (Without the "I love you", too bad.) Cute.

"I Can't Stop Thinking About You" is really dull. Really. Everything about it, especially the strings. They're terribly dull. 

"Tired of Midnight Blue" sounds terrible exciting after that last track, but it's really only mildly funky. But more pleasant guitars here...I like the way George and Jessie Ed (I'm assuming they're splitting duties) work together, guitar-wise, when they get a chance to do so.

"Grey Cloudy Lies" is another dirgey number, with a recurring bit that, yes, again sounds remarkably like it was lifted from another song, this time "Hey Jude" (?!) But it's spacey enough with it's Moogs and ARPs to keep me barely interested.

Final track is "His Name is Legs, Ladies & Gentlemen" and appears to be a tribute to Legs Larry Smith, former bandmate of Neil Innes, who of course played our own Ron Nasty. Upbeat R&B a couple of years away from disco. This is not bad. I'll have to play it again to get the gist of the lyrics and recited dialogue overtop.

 

Well, based on the one listening, I'm gonna be generous and give it a 6/10. The songs just aren't memorable enough. But I've only listened once, so...

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@vonbontee Have you listened to Dark Horse? If so which one do you prefer?

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12 July 2014
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I've never heard Dark Horse...and in fact I've only listened to Material World a couple of times. I should give them both a try someday soon.

 

(Also played "Crackerbox Palace" for the first time last night.)

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12 July 2014
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I heard Extra Texture a few months back. That i cannot remember much of the album at all speaks volumes. 

Dont have Dark Horse on cd so havent heard it for years but from what i can remember it wasnt that good overall - tho the title track is worth listening to. Looking at the tracklisting on youtube 'Ding Ding, Ding Ding' is on it and thats decent if unremarkable.

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13 July 2014
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His voice sounds the worst on Dark Horse. There are better songs on the album (and Ding Dong Ding Dong is good, but there are still other good songs on the album). I haven't listened to it enough to name all of them though. From memory, Maya Love is good. Had a look at the titles. Bye Bye Love is another really good one .

And I don't get how people don't like Extra Texture. To me it's moody and atmospheric. To everyone else it's uninspired and boring. Maybe these people just have preconceived notions of what George Harrison should sound like.

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13 July 2014
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I only remember Ding Dong, Ding Dong as i played it at Christmas/New Year.

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14 July 2014
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I never know how to feel about Dark Horse and Extra Texture. I think Dark Horse could've potentially been very good if it hadn't been rushed and George's vocals were better, and Extra Texture can be oddly cathartic when I'm feeling really down. Neither are George's best efforts, but at the same time I think they're two of his most interesting albums. I appreciate how honest he was about being miserable and doubting his beliefs. To put it another way, I would take Dark Horse and Extra Texture over an album full of pop songs along the lines of "Got My Mind Set On You" any day, even if the latter would probably do much better in the charts.

I wish we could at least hear the demos because that's when George truly shines. I bet they're beautiful and full of emotion. For instance, the little performance of Far East Man at the end of this clip from a radio interview is lovely.

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14 July 2014
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The Dark Horse demo is incredible with George's vocals intact and in as good a shape as ever. Really deserves an official release, its that good.

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ahdn_paul_06Wow, that sounds really good.

I listened to Dark Horse today, and.... well, I found it less boring than Extra Texture. It's definitely got some good tracks, and I honestly don't mind that George's voice is in pretty bad shape on the songs; I actually like the rasp a bit. I like that there isn't much on the album that is slow to the point of boring, it's mostly the slower side of mid-tempo to upbeat. I wouldn't call it one of my favorites, but it's definitely got some good stuff on there. Tomorrow I need to check out Living in the Material World, because it seems pretty popular among his albums.

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