The Beatles Bible - Topic: Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Stephanie on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:16:37 +0100

fabfouremily said

Stephanie said
Ever just think he might have been really sad, depressed? If something that has been apart of your life for so long ends, even if you wanted it to, I can't imagine that is easy, and some people handle it better than others. I would be pretty upset for a while too, I'm not good with change, maybe George wasn't either.

True, true. I think that sometimes it's easy to gather some info, make up another part and say that that person was ill or suffered with some kind of illness.

Yeah I agree, sometimes we ...

fabfouremily on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:22:31 +0100

Stephanie said
Ever just think he might have been really sad, depressed? If something that has been apart of your life for so long ends, even if you wanted it to, I can't imagine that is easy, and some people handle it better than others. I would be pretty upset for a while too, I'm not good with change, maybe George wasn't either.

True, true. I think that sometimes it's easy to gather some info, make up another part and say that that person was ill or suffered with some kind of illness.

Stephanie on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:24:13 +0100

Ever just think he might have been really sad, depressed? If something that has been apart of your life for so long ends, even if you wanted it to, I can't imagine that is easy, and some people handle it better than others. I would be pretty upset for a while too, I'm not good with change, maybe George wasn't either.

kelicopter on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Sun, 01 Jul 2012 21:24:17 +0100

The Walrus said
It is true that not all Aspies present all symptoms (as I said), and there are some who have no quirks in their speech and very good motor control (often this is trained though). One example is Owl City, who I will link to at the bottom. However, George barely presented any of the symptoms.

Wow, never knew Owl City has Asperger's.

meanmistermustard on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:30:27 +0100

From what i can gleem from what Doug Sulpy wrote, transcribed from the Get Back tapes, is that there was no fist fight. Suply writes that Michael Housego wrote an article in a newspaper called the 'The Daily Sketch' on 20th January and on the 21st January, when George had returned and they were now at Apple "George mentions the part of the article that reports he and John "threw a few vicious phrases" at one another - which he [George] claims is untrue, and Yoko chimes in that thats libel". (The Complete Get Back Sessions, page 96)

Wasnt the biggest problem in January 1969 that John ...

robert on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:32:08 +0100

Apparently the problem between George and Yoko during Let It Be sessions is that Yoko sat on George's amp. To anyone who plays even semi-professionally, you know this is a no-no - you just don't sit on someone else's amp. If screws up the settings and blocks the sound and it's just not done.

The best synthesis of the info is that John and George had a shoving match which was physical but not throwing any punches.

This is when George walked out and John made his comment about getting Eric Clapton to talk George's place.

I think John's comment (the swagger as ...

Ben Ramon on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:32:16 +0100

I've heard all sorts of things about George and John's "fist fight": that it occurred because Yoko stole a digestive biscuit from George, because George started telling John how Dylan thought Yoko was uncool, and various other things. John claimed physical blows weren't traded in a later interview but I guess we'll never know what really went down.

fabfouremily on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:23:41 +0100

Long John Silver said

robert said
Just for the sake of clarity, when George walked out during the Let It Be sessions, it was not because he wasn't getting his way or even because he was being told what to play or not play by Paul.

George walked out after he and John had a fist fight (or close to a fist fight - but reports are that it got physical). The argument was over something George said to John about Yoko.

Never heard about that one...

I read about the fight somewhere but I'm not sure if that's the reason ...

Long John Silver on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:48:56 +0100

robert said
Just for the sake of clarity, when George walked out during the Let It Be sessions, it was not because he wasn't getting his way or even because he was being told what to play or not play by Paul.

George walked out after he and John had a fist fight (or close to a fist fight - but reports are that it got physical). The argument was over something George said to John about Yoko.

Never heard about that one...

robert on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:18:39 +0100

Just for the sake of clarity, when George walked out during the Let It Be sessions, it was not because he wasn't getting his way or even because he was being told what to play or not play by Paul.

George walked out after he and John had a fist fight (or close to a fist fight - but reports are that it got physical). The argument was over something George said to John about Yoko.

The Walrus on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:37:31 +0100

I didn't mention "special interests" because unknown mentioned them. You could possibly stretch to calling George's interest in India and Indian culture a "special interest". It is quite common for the interest to change every few months.

I use autism and Asperger's fairly interchangeably- soon they will be merged into one diagnosis in much of the world.

It is true that not all Aspies present all symptoms (as I said), and there are some who have no quirks in their speech and very good motor control (often this is trained though). One example is Owl City, who I will link to at ...

minime on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:10:22 +0100

The Walrus said

unknown said
I think that George might have had a very small case of Asbergers. This would explain why he got so angry during that period: he was overwhelmed by always being surrounded by so many people, and he expressed that through anger. That would also explain his obsession with India because that is sometimes a side effect of Asbergers

Though maybe I'm just over thinking all of this.

Okay, firstly it is Asperger's, not Asbergers. If you struggle to spell, use the abbreviation AS.

Secondly, there aren't "small cases". People display different ...

Inner Light on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:37:55 +0100

Ben Ramon said

Inner Light said

vonbontee said
George had an ego too - anybody who decides to debut with a triple album obviously has one! In fact I would say that anybody who decides to record an album of their own has to have a healthy ego.

Really, when I saw this thread title (the first half of it) I thought it was going to be about his 1999 knife attack :/

Sorry to disagree with you on this one. George did not have a ego. He was one of the most humble musicians I have ever seen. He ...

Ben Ramon on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Sun, 24 Jun 2012 12:43:31 +0100

Inner Light said

vonbontee said
George had an ego too - anybody who decides to debut with a triple album obviously has one! In fact I would say that anybody who decides to record an album of their own has to have a healthy ego.

Really, when I saw this thread title (the first half of it) I thought it was going to be about his 1999 knife attack :/

Sorry to disagree with you on this one. George did not have a ego. He was one of the most humble musicians I have ever seen. He stood in between two ...

robert on Could George have suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from Beatlemania?

Sun, 24 Jun 2012 12:36:39 +0100

So without getting into the all pyscho babble about egos etc, I think we can discern that George did indeed have an ego (as would any successful person) and if we watch Living In A Material World (LIAMW) and read Clapton's book, George also had an anger problem and was quite a womanizer.

My point was that in spite of his own ego, John and Paul's massive egos (earned) became oppressive and held him back.

I also think (and there is where I will get taken off some Christmas lists) that George's talent was not equal to John or Paul's (at least ...