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Wah-Wah said:

I have a feeling he considered his fans to be friends! a-hard-days-night-george-8

I feel the same way. As a matter of fact, I think of that every time I hear "Apple Scruffs".

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GniknuS said
Has anyone heard this great album by Mr.
George Harrison? It was the last thing he ever released, actually it was released a year after he died, but it's absolutely fantastic. He just sounds so...content and happy. The album just makes me smile thinking of George and how great of a person he was and his legacy that continues to carry on. Anyway I just wanted to know if anyone else has any thoughts on this album because I can't stop listening to it. Here's a link to one of the best songs I've ever heard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....GyvO522O-4

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Third best album after ATMP and Cloud 9.  In my opinion.  

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You need Simon Leng's book, While My Guitar Gently Weeps. It's the equivalent of Revolution In The Head for George's solo songs (but with more of the who/what/when than Macdonald's cultural analysis).

I have a copy at home - if I remember I'll dig out the info for you.

At some point I'll write about all of George's solo songs (I did some of ATMP then got sidetracked) but it's fairly low on my list.

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While some of George's best material can be found on the much heralded 'All Things Must Pass' album, 'Brainwashed' IS his best album from start to finish, in my opinion.  I don't get people's fears of "over-production" which I would've thought should've been laid to rest after Jeff Lynne's stunning work on 'Free As A Bird', why is it that these same people were so readily accepting of Phil Spector's 'Wall of Sound' treatment of 'All Things Must Pass'?  They need not worry for Dhani Harrison made certain that Jeff Lynne followed George's last wishes for this stunning swansong disc, I'd take it over McCartney's 'New' CD (which I also really like) in a heartbeat, not only is 'Brainwashed' George's best album, but it rivals 'John Lennon Plastic Ono Band', 'Band On The Run' & 'Ringo' as the best solo album by ANY Beatle, it really is THAT good.  Very rarely have I gone a week or two without spinning it from beginning to end since it came out in 2002, also, if you haven't checked out the 'Concert For George' from November 29, 2002, go find it ASAP for it's also excellent, Jeff Lynne & Dhani Harrison do a pretty darned good version of 'The Inner Light' with Ravi Shankar's daughter Anoushka backing them near the beginning of the show...:-)

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Billy Rhythm said
While some of George's best material can be found on the much heralded '
All Things Must Pass' album, 'Brainwashed' IS his best album from start to finish, in my opinion.  I don't get people's fears of "over-production" which I would've thought should've been laid to rest after Jeff Lynne's stunning work on 'Free As A Bird', why is it that these same people were so readily accepting of Phil Spector's 'Wall of Sound' treatment of 'All Things Must Pass'?  They need not worry for Dhani Harrison made certain that Jeff Lynne followed George's last wishes for this stunning swansong disc, I'd take it over McCartney's 'New' CD (which I also really like) in a heartbeat, not only is 'Brainwashed' George's best album, but it rivals 'John Lennon Plastic Ono Band', 'Band On The Run' & 'Ringo' as the best solo album by ANY Beatle, it really is THAT good.  Very rarely have I gone a week or two without spinning it from beginning to end since it came out in 2002

I don't get the "overproduced" criticisms, either. I think Dhani and Jeff did a great job. The whole album feels very George. It contains some of his best melodies, and "Any Road" is maybe my favorite solo-George song (the other contender being "Be Here Now") -- probably one of my top ten solo-Beatles songs. I am just a sucker for that riff, the lyrics are great, and George's delivery is great. I'd also say the album is one of the most consistent (as in "no duffers") solo-Beatles' albums, though I only really listen to a few other tracks off it ("Marwa Blues," "Devil and the DBS," "Rocking Chair in Hawaii"). Funnily, my least favorite song is the title track.

I like more tracks off New, myself, but the album is less consistent (that's Paul for you), and I don't think there's a song on it as objectively good as "Any Day," though on an emotional level I love "Early Days" just as much, maybe more. So to me it's a wash between the two albums. Though, on second thought, Brainwashed definitely makes top ten list of Beatles' solo albums, while New does not, so maybe not so much a wash? (For the record [ha!] I don't think BOTR is Paul's best; Ram and Electric Arguments are miles ahead of it, IMO.)

"Real Love" and "Free As A Bird," OTOH, I can see as overproduced. But that was probably unavoidable, considering the quality of the demos. Of course, I don't even like either song, so maybe I'm not the person to ask. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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acmac said

Funnily, my least favorite song is the title track.
 
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The title track is one of my favourites and an excellent "signing-off", in my opinion, by one of the most prolific musicians of our time.  George's discontent with the state that the world was in when he left it was no secret to those who knew and loved him so dearly.  On the song 'Brainwashed', he makes mention to all his bones to pick with society "down on BullShit Avenue" in a most humorous and satirical way that's pure George while inserting his plea to "God, God God!" inbetween barbs as the only way out of the mess as he sees it.  "They even got my Grandma when she was working for the Mob" among other fantastic one-liners pick up on the tone set by 'P2 Vatican Blues (Last Saturday Night)' earlier on in the album.  The eerie chant set against the Eastern arrangement at the end, with Dhani backing, is George saying one last farewell to us all before he departs this world.  It's one of many very emotional moments present throughout the disc and George was never really one to show much emotion really.

 

He shows a certain vulnerability on this album, fueled obviously by his battle with cancer at the time of its recording, never before seen in a George Harrison collection.  The "Talking to myself, crying aloud" lyric in 'Stuck Inside A Cloud' gives me the impression that part of him was dreadfully fearful of death, eventhough he'd long discussed the topic of death candidly in interviews as something he'd been spending most of his life preparing for, almost as though he welcomed it as some sort of a natural progression to his spiritual development.  The "How come nobody really noticed how the white smoke knocked me out" line in P2 Vatican Blues (Last Saturday Night)' is an obvious reference to the effect that cigarettes had on his deteriorating health, the album at times is very hard to listen to without feeling George's pain on the physical plane.

 

The pain and anguish is well rounded throughout 'Brainwashed' by George's pension for seeing the funny side of things, or a "laughter is the best medicine" approach to tackling the obstacles of life, eventhough he likes to promote the pathway to God at every turn, this was George's balancing act which he did so well and it's never been more apparent than on this album.  Perhaps my earlier comparisons to Paul McCartney's 'New' are a little unfair, but John & Paul's work has always traditionally been a measuring stick to George's successes, and with every Paul & Ringo release nowadays being potentially their last, I can't help but measure their latest works to George's last.  One strong advantage George's 'Brainwashed' has over 'New' is that the album succeeds with very little recording "tricks" prevalent.  'New's exotic production is one of the big reason's for its success, in my opinion.  When it comes to lyrics, songwriting and the performances themselves, 'Brainwashed' is noticeably better in just about every way when I listen to it, but that's just me of course...:-)  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    

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I just FINALLY purchased 'Brainwashed'.

Hard to believe it took me so long... George Harrison provided the soundtrack of my life.

Call me a wuss, but I will probably cry listening to it.

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Kel said
I just FINALLY purchased 'Brainwashed'.

Hard to believe it took me so long... George Harrison provided the soundtrack of my life.

Call me a wuss, but I will probably cry listening to it.

Same - but it is on my ever-growing stack - which I am chipping away at chronologically.  I do like the songs I have heard from it though.

 

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trcanberra said

Kel said
I just FINALLY purchased 'Brainwashed'.

Hard to believe it took me so long... George Harrison provided the soundtrack of my life.

Call me a wuss, but I will probably cry listening to it.

Same - but it is on my ever-growing stack - which I am chipping away at chronologically.  I do like the songs I have heard from it though.

 

 

I'm astonished that so many haven't heard this album yet, it was a "no-brainer" day-one purchase for me that I couldn't wait to load up into the disc tray.  I mean, a new album by George?!  While he's no longer with us!?  That first listen back in November 2002 was a very memorable one for me, as I said all ready, "'Brainwashed' IS his best album"!...:-) 

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Billy Rhythm said

trcanberra said

Kel said
I just FINALLY purchased 'Brainwashed'.

Hard to believe it took me so long... George Harrison provided the soundtrack of my life.

Call me a wuss, but I will probably cry listening to it.

Same - but it is on my ever-growing stack - which I am chipping away at chronologically.  I do like the songs I have heard from it though.

 

 

I'm astonished that so many haven't heard this album yet, it was a "no-brainer" day-one purchase for me that I couldn't wait to load up into the disc tray.  I mean, a new album by George?!  While he's no longer with us!?  That first listen back in November 2002 was a very memorable one for me, as I said all ready, "'Brainwashed' IS his best album"!...:-) 

I re-listened to Brainwashed about 5 months ago (when i revisited all of George's pop albums (ie not Wonderwall or Electronic Music) and found it to be pretty unremarkable, that the songs didn't sound that different to each other, production-wise at least. There are some nice tracks on there (Stuck Inside A Cloud, Any Road, Vatican Blues, Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, Brainwashed) but it's never been one i keep going back to. The album that did stick out was Gone Troppo which i now rate very highly.

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Billy Rhythm said

trcanberra said

Kel said
I just FINALLY purchased 'Brainwashed'.

Hard to believe it took me so long... George Harrison provided the soundtrack of my life.

Call me a wuss, but I will probably cry listening to it.

Same - but it is on my ever-growing stack - which I am chipping away at chronologically.  I do like the songs I have heard from it though.

 

 

I'm astonished that so many haven't heard this album yet, it was a "no-brainer" day-one purchase for me that I couldn't wait to load up into the disc tray.  I mean, a new album by George?!  While he's no longer with us!?  That first listen back in November 2002 was a very memorable one for me, as I said all ready, "'Brainwashed' IS his best album"!...:-) 

I went 20 years without buying a CD - that John thing about life is what happens while making other plans - so true.

 

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