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7 September 2013
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meanmistermustard
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Their live covers were always better than in the studio, tho the concert performances in '66 you can tell they really couldn't be bothered and weren't interested – but that goes for nearly all the songs nearly all the time. Rock And Roll Music I like a lot but the BBC version is so much better.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
10 September 2013
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meanmistermustard
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Many bands nowadays wouldn't have considering recording an album if they were as exhausted as the Beatles but would give anything to have such a great album under their career history.a-hard-days-night-paul-11a-hard-days-night-paul-11a-hard-days-night-paul-11a-hard-days-night-paul-11a-hard-days-night-paul-11a-hard-days-night-paul-11a-hard-days-night-paul-11

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
10 September 2013
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DrBeatle
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While Beatles For Sale is a really good album, it's probably the weakest of their earlier period, which goes up to and including Help!. That being said, MMM I agree that the fact that they were able to put out an album of such quality AS WELL AS another #1 non-album single (I Feel Fine/She's A Woman) by the end of the year, while fulfilling all of their tour, TV, radio, etc commitments, is staggering.  No one could ever accuse them of being lazy, that's for sure!

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16 September 2013
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sunshaderain7
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I'll come right out and say it. Beatles for Sale is my least favorite album in the Beatles catalog. I even enjoy the Yellow Submarine album more. But there are a lot of people who really like it. To those of you, what about the album do you like? I'm not trying to be a prick, I honestly want to appreciate it more, because there has to be good things about it.

"Sometimes they call me the proletariat, but I don't mind." -Stig O'Hara

24 September 2013
9.48pm
BeatleManiacKane
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How is this album so underrated? Seriously!

Amazing songs on here;

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Eight Days A Week

I'm a loser

Baby's In Black

I'll Follow The Sun

Honey Don't

Favourite band: The Beatles Favourite song: Yesterday Favourite album: Rubber Soul Favourite member: Paul McCartney Favourite solo career: John Lennon or Paul McCartney Favourite solo career song: John Lennon - God or Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmas Time Favourite songs on albums; Please Please Me: There's A Place/Misery With The Beatles: All My Loving/Please Mr Postman A Hard Day's Night: If I Fell/And I Love Her Beatles For Sale: No Reply/I'll Follow The Sun Help!: Yesterday/I've Just Seen A Face Rubber Soul: In My Life/Drive My Car/The Word Revolver: She Said She Said/Here There And Everywhere Sgt Pepper: Sgt Pepper/She's Leaving Home Magical Mystery Tour: Your Mother Should Know/All You Need Is Love White Album: Dear Prudence/Happiness Is A Warm Gun/Cry Baby Cry Let It Be: Across The Universe/Get Back Abbey Road: Come Together/Here Comes The Sun :)
24 September 2013
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walrusgumboot
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Look at their schedule for 1964 and its hard NOT to be astounded at the quality of this album….sub Leave My Kitten Alone for Mr Moonlight and, for my money, its a better album than Help (gasp) there I said it.

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24 September 2013
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walrusgumboot
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PS Honey Don't is Ringo's best early vocal.
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25 September 2013
12.07pm
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After a very trying day on Monday, I wanted to relax that evening and let the day's troubles melt away. I grabbed an ale out of the fridge, then reached for the iPod and headphones. Now, which Beatles album do I unwind to? Rubber Soul? First disc of The White?

Hmmmmm, Beatles For Sale….why not? From the first few lines of 'No Reply', I knew I made the right choice. It's not always the first album I reach for, but in this case I'm glad I did. 

Proof positive for me that there is no such thing as "the worst" Beatles album. 

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25 September 2013
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HeyTrud
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Just got this CD!  And I LOVE it!  Many great tunes on this one.

One thing that stands out to me is I have read that both John and Paul thought "Eight Days A Week" was a "throw away song". WHAT?!  I can't get over that.  It has always been one of my favourites.  As soon as I hear the intro fade in…I'm tapping my toes.

GREAT ALBUM.

"....take a sad song & make it Meilleur"....

25 September 2013
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DrBeatle
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Honestly, for me the thing that always brings this album down *just a bit* are the covers. They're good (well, apart from Mr. Moonlight, which is shit), but the originals are a bit dark and they were starting to get a really interesting sound on some of them (No Reply, Baby's In Black, Every Little Thing) that I always wish they could've explored that a bit more with more originals, had they had more time and energy at that point in '64.

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25 September 2013
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sunshaderain7
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I'll admit, there are a few songs off of the album that I enjoy, but I feel like those few could have been recorded better. I understand that the boys were very busy people at the time, so it's forgivable. The two songs in mind are "What You're Doing" and "I'll Follow The Sun". The former could have used a bit more polishing I think, because it sounds a bit…empty? The latter sounds okay, but it seems too short to me. If my memory serves me right, it's not even two minutes long, is it?

"Sometimes they call me the proletariat, but I don't mind." -Stig O'Hara

25 September 2013
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sunshaderain7 said
I'll admit, there are a few songs off of the album that I enjoy, but I feel like those few could have been recorded better. I understand that the boys were very busy people at the time, so it's forgivable. The two songs in mind are "What You're Doing" and "I'll Follow The Sun". The former could have used a bit more polishing I think, because it sounds a bit…empty? The latter sounds okay, but it seems too short to me. If my memory serves me right, it's not even two minutes long, is it?

   Yeah, I'll Follow The Sun is the shortest song on the album clocking at 1:48 

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13 February 2014
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OneCoolCat
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I like this album but not too hung up on Rock N Roll, Mr. Moonlight, Kansas City and Everybody's Trying. Basically the covers, although I love Words Of Love.

Party, Doing, Every Little Thing are just fantastic songs!

13 February 2014
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tulane
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I think your view of this album depends upon what type of listener you are.

I think if 50s rock n' roll is your favourite genre, this is likely to be one of your favourite Beatles albums. Beatles for Sale features songs by 50s icons Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly and Carl Perkins.  At the time it was released in 1964, Rock n' Roll had gone out of fashion as far as the top 40 was concerned, but there were still a great many fans of the music around, not least the Beatles themselves.

If your favourite genre is psychedelic music or progressive rock then Beatles for sale may be less likely to be your cup of tea.

IMHO whether Beatles for Sale is amongst your favourites is likely to say more about you the listener and your general preferences than about the quality of the music per se.

13 February 2014
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I really like the originals on this album. How much I like the covers varies. That being said I surprisingly listen to this straight through often (yes, even Mr. Moonlight, haha).

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13 February 2014
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^^  You make a good point there. I like this album and I do like the artists they covered on BFS. I do think it would've sounded much better if only they'd spent a bit more time on it, though I know that wasn't really posible.

''We're just knocked out. We heard about the sell out. You gotta get an album out, you owe it to the people. We're so happy we can hardly count.''

14 February 2014
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robert
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I have said many times and say again, for most bands, they would be lucky to have Beatles For Sale as their best album.

"She looks more like him than I do."
14 February 2014
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PeterWeatherby
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Actually, I think this album has the highest number of what I call "sleeper hits," or what we've called elsewhere on this site "underrated songs."

Every time I hear these particular songs, I think, "Oh yeah, I forgot how much I like this one!"

Not a bit like Cagney.
14 February 2014
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TheOneBeatleManiac
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Beatles For Sale was done when they went into worldwide sensation, with a film & soundtrack released in the same year, concerts, television and radio appearances from all over the world, it is understandable that The Beatles got barely the time to record a new album (4 weeks in total were spent on writing & recording the album only if I am not wrong). As a result, the lyrics and music reflect a sensation of overwhelming and surprising success as well as the ups and downs of it, how magnificent but tiring the fame can be, and so on. So, this album starts the transition to the studio band they would become by the end of 1966.
Experimentation for something new starts to be visible here with the feedback effect on I Feel Fine, more acoustic feel start to appear such as I'll Follow The Sun or I'm A Loser, and more expression in their lyrics such as No Reply or I Don't Want To Spoil The Party as well as music like What You're Doing or Every Little Thing.
Because of the limited time spent on the album, they had to recur to covers, some that were already mastered by them in the past (i.e. the medley Kansas City/Hey, Hey, Hey) some others couldn't be polished enough (Mr. Moonlight) and at least one that was actually good but probably was left in favor of George singing Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby (Leave My Kitten Alone).
This album expresses their probably hardest year in terms of the sudden, overwhelming, worldwide phenomenon The Beatles became.

In My Life, I Love You More.
14 February 2014
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tulane
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fabfouremily said
^^  You make a good point there. I like this album and I do like the artists they covered on BFS. I do think it would've sounded much better if only they'd spent a bit more time on it, though I know that wasn't really posible.

I'm not convinced that this album would have much sounded better if they had spent more time on it.

Maybe, if they had more time, they would have written better songs, but I don't think having more time would have helped the actual recording process very much if at all.

For me, 50s style rock n' roll, which is what this LP focuses on, is all about energy and spontaneity.  Although the painstaking process of building up tracks bit by bit worked really well on the likes of Sgt Pepper, those were different types of songs.  I think if they had spent 3 days recording Kansas City, it would not have yielded any improvement.  Maybe it would have been technically more perfect, but perhaps it could have lost the raw edge which makes the version on Beatles For Sale so exciting.     

This is why, to me, John's Rock n' Roll album was a disappointment.  It had so much potential – John was such a good Rock n' Roll singer and the song selection was magnificent – but to me it sounds overproduced.  50s style rock n' roll is very simple musically.  You don't want a big production job, you want spontaneity, energy, passion and drive.  Too much production can dilute that I feel.  It is impossible to sing take 38 with the same enthusiasm as take 1 or take 2.  I think John's Rock n' Roll album could have been better if he had just gone in the studio with a small, tight band of top rockabilly musicians (eg James Burton) and tried to blitz through everything live in 1 take.

What weakens Beatles for Sale for me are the tracks that Ringo and George sing, because, for me at least, Ringo and George are simply not as good singers as John and Paul.  I understand why they did this – that it was a democratic decision to give everyone a chance to sing – which is fair enough, but those tracks are the ones that I regard as the fillers  on this LP.

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