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27 March 2012
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vonbontee
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Well, it's well established how exhausted they were from touring the USA and elsewhere, so it was really more of a holding pattern than a step backward.

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29 March 2012
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I like Beatles For Sale. It is a good album. My favorites are many. Their songs are better than the other ones. It is not my favorite Beatles album. Maybe third to last. Or something else even. I do not like Words Of Love much. I do like Mr. Moonlight and I'm A Loser and others. Beatles For Sale is a really good album. Even for The Beatles.

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30 March 2012
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Ah, that does make sense, von.

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28 August 2012
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I think Beatles for Sale is generally considered the weakest Beatles (or, at least, one of the weakest) album because, for them, it easily represented the smallest step forward from the album that immediately preceded it (until late '67, when such progress no longer seemed relevant); most of their compositions for this album wouldn't have sounded out of place on A Hard Day's Night (indeed, "No Reply" actually originally dates from those sessions).  But, again, considering the hectic year they had, it's probably a miracle they were able to come up with 10 originals (including "I Feel Fine" and "She's A Woman") to put out on their end-of-the-year album and accompanying single.  And, like any Beatles album, it's still good in its own right.

28 August 2012
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This is still one of my favorite albums do to the fact of the cover songs. The Beatles were a cover band before they made it big and I always felt they did a better cover version then the original artists.

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28 August 2012
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Though it's not my favorite Beatles album, I like Beatles for Sale a lot. I don't get why so many people knock this album; well, actually, yeah, I do: It's because half of the songs are cover songs. Honestly, the only cover I really like is Rock And Roll Music, but there are plenty of great original songs, too. People seem to forget all about songs like No Reply, I'll Follow The Sun, What You're Doing, and some of the other amazing songs when they talk about this album, leaving only bad things to say. Beatles for Sale is really good, just very overlooked.

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29 August 2012
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I finished reading a book yesterday (which I hated) by this music critic and I know it's his job to be critical (as his occupation title suggests) but he had nothing good to say about the album. Is it their best? No. Is it better than A Hard Day's Night? No. But I still think that it's good. I'll Follow The Sun and No Reply being my favourites. And as for the covers, Words Of Love is really great. The reason they did so many covers is because of the amount of time they had to write and record all the tracks in time to get it out for Christmas, which wasn't their fault. All in all, I don't know why people dislike it so much.

''We're just knocked out. We heard about the sell out. You gotta get an album out, you owe it to the people. We're so happy we can hardly count.''

29 August 2012
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fabfouremily, what was the book and who was the critic?

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29 August 2012
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Von Bontee said
fabfouremily, what was the book and who was the critic?

It was called The Mammoth Book Of The Beatles and the man´s called Sean Egan.

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29 August 2012
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OK, never heard of him so I can't contribute an opinion/dismissal, thanks!

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29 August 2012
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Von Bontee said
OK, never heard of him so I can't contribute an opinion/dismissal, thanks!

OK, no problem. Another reason why I don´t like the man is because he talks as if he´s important but I can´t say if he has done anything else noteworthy. Or anything else full stop. Maybe he has and he is important but I can´t find much info about him.

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29 August 2012
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fabfouremily said

Von Bontee said
fabfouremily, what was the book and who was the critic?

It was called The Mammoth Book Of The Beatles and the man´s called Sean Egan.

I read that book over a few weeks in Waterstones (a bookshop in Glasgow) a few years back. The more i read the worse it got and thankfully cant remember much about it apart from it being poorly written and containing a lot of errors – a very sloppy piece of work. On the positive side i never bought it as it would have been a complete waste of money and space in a box.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
30 August 2012
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meanmistermustard said

fabfouremily said

Von Bontee said
fabfouremily, what was the book and who was the critic?

It was called The Mammoth Book Of The Beatles and the man´s called Sean Egan.

I read that book over a few weeks in Waterstones (a bookshop in Glasgow) a few years back. The more i read the worse it got and thankfully cant remember much about it apart from it being poorly written and containing a lot of errors – a very sloppy piece of work. On the positive side i never bought it as it would have been a complete waste of money and space in a box.

Can you just read books in Waterstones without buying them?? Anyway, yes I found quite a few errors as well. I would´ve never bought the book because I don´t think it even sounds interesting by reading the back (it´s just his opinion on everything they did, more or less) but it was a present from somebody. One of the worst books I have ever read.

EDIT: I think we should leave this now because we´re supposed to be talking about Beatles For Sale.

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30 August 2012
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fabfouremily said

…Can you just read books in Waterstones without buying them?? …

Yes. A lot of them stores have coffee shops so you buy a cup of tea and read their books or just read the books. You could spend all day in there and they wouldnt say anything.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
30 August 2012
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meanmistermustard said

fabfouremily said

…Can you just read books in Waterstones without buying them?? …

Yes. A lot of them stores have coffee shops so you buy a cup of tea and read their books or just read the books. You could spend all day in there and they wouldnt say anything.

How unfair. You Can't Do That in my local Waterstones! paul-mccartney

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30 August 2012
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fabfouremily said

meanmistermustard said

fabfouremily said

…Can you just read books in Waterstones without buying them?? …

Yes. A lot of them stores have coffee shops so you buy a cup of tea and read their books or just read the books. You could spend all day in there and they wouldnt say anything.

How unfair. You Can't Do That in my local Waterstones! paul-mccartney

Bookshops are dying due to the days of cheaper internet prices, have to get money in somehow and letting someone put in a coffee shop whilst charging them a fortune for rent helps (unless Waterstones and Costa are owned by the same organisation and they get every single penny).

 

Right this must be one of the most off-topic threads ever.

 

Beatles For Sale

 

A demo of I'll Follow The Sun exists from 1960 and whilst not being as good as the commercial version it does have a lot of charm and an unused section (bridge?). 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..Z7VGI-kntg

 

(no idea if that was previously mentioned but was looking for a way back to the proper topic in hand)

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
3 September 2012
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I've always thought this album to be the most underrated of all their albums. It's my favorite early album of theirs, but HDN and Help are close ( I divide them between Help! and Rubber Soul). 

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29 October 2012
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'Beatles For Sale' was never released in America, so consequently it was never popular here, except for buyers of imports, and until the CDs came out.

29 October 2012
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I know I'm a bit late to this topic and I haven't read all four pages of the discussion…

 

My understanding was that 'Beatles For Sale' was just a quick stopgap after the endless touring and the movie.  There are a bunch of covers and the overall album is sort of sloppy because the boys were so exhausted.

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29 October 2012
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I don't think Beatles For Sale was ever going to be a particuarlarly good album, becuase- as Satan says- they'd spent a lot of the year on tour and they were contracted to complete another album by the end of the year ("It was inevitable that the constant grind of touring, writing, promoting, and recording would grate on the Beatles,"- AllMusic) So its in no way their best work but its still a decent album. I think its has some cracking McCartney bass lines/ bass playing( particuarlarly I'm A Loser and Honey Don't) and you can see the development in Lennon's lyrics. I like the covers of Rock 'n' Roll Music, Honey Don't and Kansas City, and I like I'll Follow The Sun, I'm A Loser and Baby's In Black. The only part of the album which I think is especially poor is Mr Moonlight- John's opening in scream is great, but Paul and George sound drunk, and it really wasn't a good idea to let Macca loose on the Hammond Organ. ahdn_paul_02george-martin

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