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The Beatles Live Project
16 November 2012
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Apple have announced The Beatles Live Project which is appealing for fans to donate film, sounds, photographs etc of the the beatles live during beatlemania.

About the Global Research Project

The Beatles Live! Project is a collaborative global quest to find and reveal hidden films, sound recordings, stories, photographs, and other media artifacts that were captured during The Beatles' concert tours. The best media and stories that we find will be showcased in a planned feature film about The Beatles’ concert tours. This project provides a one-time opportunity for the fans to collaborate with The Beatles in a planned feature film. (The Beatles Live Project - About)

Details are on thebeatles.com and it even has its own site The Beatles Live Project on the beatles website. Sounds very promising and exciting.

This hopefully will result in a comprehensive overview of them live (sometimes forgotten or discarded) as well as significant live package being released (ie not 1 best live compilation cd and a 60 mins film). 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....1V51dgZe-8

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16 November 2012
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If this news makes you happy, meanmm, then it should make us all happy!

I'm curious about this request for fans to send in their own materials - surely that stuff will be used primarily to augment the voluminous footage and whatnot that already exists in the vaults, rather than standing on its own, right? 'Cause i don't see the point of them prioritizing unofficial material when there's so much official stuff that simply isn't being made commercially available.

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16 November 2012
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I think perhaps it's to tap the mass of unbootlegged material that's potentially in existence.  There's probably not much of any real quality left anymore, but you must imagine that there are 8mm film reels, photographs, shabby recordings and whatnot stashed away and somewhat forgotten in basements and attics by thousands of people who attended concerts and shows back in the 60s.

 

I think everything significant in the way of live recordings is already in circulation by the bootleggers and traders, so I'm curious to see what might possibly turn up from the vaults.

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16 November 2012
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I'll be happy if they do it right and get it finished within the next decade (being generous as its Apple). Apple just have a habit of botching releases up by trying to accomodate everyone or going slower than British Telecom dealing with its customers.

 

There is stuff out there that is held by collectors that hasnt even made it into underground world, not sure if this appeal will get those folks to donate even a copy tho as they hold it very dear to themselves. There are uk '63 concerts that have been auctioned but not bootlegged and Paul is believed to have purchased a tape of the beatles playing in the Cavern amongst a gazzilion other items of historical excitement he's bought in auctions.

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18 November 2012
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This begs the question ... is there a definitive list of Beatles live concert performances that were captured on film and have been thusly digitized? Or does anyone care to share their own list? I know there is a lot of film that has been digitized to YouTube and DVD, but I have yet to find a comprehensive list online. As a guitarist/musician ... I am particularly interested in a current list of digitized film of Beatles performances where there is no miming. For instance ... I am aware of:

 

19620822BeatlesSomeOtherGuyLiveCavernClub

19631030BeatlesDropInShowSwedishTV

19631104BeatlesRoyalVarietyPerformance

19631120BeatlesComeToTownManchester

19631202BeatlesMorecambeWiseShow

1964 Ed Sullivan, Coliseum Washington DC, Empire Pool Wembley, Festival Hall Melbourne, Hollywood Bowl LA

1965 Empire Pool Wembley, Palais Des Sports Paris, Blackpool Night Out, Cafe Treslolong Hillegom, Shea Stadium NY

1966 Circus Krone Munich, Nippon Budokan Hall Tokyo, Candlestick Park SF

1969 Rooftop London

... NME's, Shindig, Let It Be Sessions ... etc.

Anyway ... I'm sure I'm missing a lot ... thus was wondering if there is a definitive list? Feel free to point me in the right direction as I may have just missed it in my Google searching? Thanks!

19 November 2012
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I dont know of a definative list tho im sure one is out there somewhere. There is a site called The Beatles on DVD that has gone to fantastic lengths to document every clip of the beatles known to be out there. Books like the 910 Guide by Doug Sulpy, both volumes of That Magic Feeling: The Beatles' Recorded Legacy by John C Winn and The Beatles Film and TV Chronicle: 1961 - 1970 also have entries on available footage and audio tho a small amount of clips and segments have been unearthed since publication so they are slightly out of date (tho still excellent sources).

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19 November 2012
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Thank you for the reply, link and book references. The Beatles on DVD is a indeed a great resource. I hadn't seen that one. There has been so much written about The Beatles (and it still continues) that it can sometimes be overwhelming :-) As for The Beatles Live! Project ... I wish Apple success on the project. And I look forward to watching the end product. As an aside ... last night as I was watching The Beatles Feb. 1964 Washington DC performance I noted a young lady in the audience with a tape recorder diligently holding out her recorder microphone. You can even see the tape spinning :-) So I suppose there may still be some people who attended these events that are holding on to their precious tapes and film ... and only showing them privately. It will be interesting to see if any significant audio or video comes to light. I've always assumed by now that all the radio and TV stations around the world have searched their archive of tape/film for anything with a Beatle on it :-) Anyway ... thanks again for your reply!

20 November 2012
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There is definately a Bournemouth '63 concert out there which hasnt come to light, a partial audio clip of a song from Carlise was aired recently on a bbc radio programme, and a Swedish radio station recently aired All My Loving from July '64 which was previously unreleased and the dj looks to have more, so there is stuff out there unheard and not commonly circulating. Plus who knows what Apple, Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Oliivia have in their vaults so there is cause for hope in this.  

 

Considering the December date for folks to contribute Apple may be aiming for an October 2013 release as it would be 50 years since Beatlemania was coined and considered to have trully arrived but thats pure personal speculation nothing more. Its fun to think of anniversaries that could be celebrated. Arriving in America in February 2014 will be huge, even if not by Apple the US will go barmy. They like going doolally for the beatles. 

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21 November 2012
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meanmistermustard said
There is definately a Bournemouth '63 concert out there which hasnt come to light, a partial audio clip of a song from Carlise was aired recently on a bbc radio programme, and a Swedish radio station recently aired All My Loving from July '64 which was previously unreleased and the dj looks to have more, so there is stuff out there unheard and not commonly circulating. Plus who knows what Apple, Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Oliivia have in their vaults so there is cause for hope in this.  

 

<<< It makes sense that there would be some audio and/or video from Bournemouth as it seems like The Beatles played there pretty frequently in 1963. I wasn't aware that Apple, Paul et. al. were holding anything back, but then I'm not familiar with the business side of it. I suppose Paul wouldn't want some stuff out there if he felt it wasn't up to snuff. He is such a musical perfectionist ... and I mean that in a good way. From my standpoint as a musician and song writer I would to love hear everything The Beatles did. A lot can be learned from their compositions, arrangements and interpretations. Anyway ... as you say ... there is hope :-)

 

Considering the December date for folks to contribute Apple may be aiming for an October 2013 release as it would be 50 years since Beatlemania was coined and considered to have trully arrived but thats pure personal speculation nothing more. Its fun to think of anniversaries that could be celebrated. Arriving in America in February 2014 will be huge, even if not by Apple the US will go barmy. They like going doolally for the beatles.

 

<<< Yes ... we Americans do go balmy over The Beatles ... I think because we have great taste in music :-) And I am particularly looking forward to a February 2014 Anniversary celebration here in the U.S. That was a seminal moment for us because it was the beginning of the British invasion of music into our culture which had a profound impact on me and a lot of other musicians here. Most of my favorite bands from the 1960's and 1970's were British. It sometimes boggles my mind the amount of talent that came from Britain during that period. But I guess American music had that same effect on the British back in the 1950's/early 1960's :-) Anyway ... for me personally I would love to see any new film of The Beatles performing live (particularly with no miming). 

29 November 2012
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I just heard about this project a few weeks ago and I think it's very interesting sounding. I do hope that it's more than just a film and more of a multimedia release, with CDs and DVDs as well as the feature film, but I guess we'll see when(ever) it ends up being released!  It's something similar to what I've done with another favorite band of mine, Blur, with my 2 books on their live concerts, so I'm very intrigued by this.

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9 October 2013
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On the fab4free4all there was a very brief in-passing remark that The Beatles Live project had been ditched, anyone heard anything at all either way?

Was this just a way of Apple getting folks to help fill gaps in their archives whilst having no intention of an end product release?

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9 October 2013
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I found the whole thing rather curious - there is so much live material in "Anthology" already I was wondering what this new project would bring to the table.

9 October 2013
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trcanberra said
I found the whole thing rather curious - there is so much live material in "Anthology" already I was wondering what this new project would bring to the table.

 

Well there is talk of concert audio from '63 in collectors hands along with other things that Apple might not have or in poor quality. I know its up for debate but if the dates are correct the term Beatlemania was first printed either on the 7th or 15th of October 1963 so the 50th anniversary of the term has either gone by or will be very soon without any mention from Apple (no surprise really). 

Suppose it saves us the disappointment when Apple charges us a fortune for their ballsed-up half-arsed attempt at it.

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meanmistermustard said

trcanberra said
I found the whole thing rather curious - there is so much live material in "Anthology" already I was wondering what this new project would bring to the table.

 

Well there is talk of concert audio from '63 in collectors hands along with other things that Apple might not have or in poor quality. I know its up for debate but if the dates are correct the term Beatlemania was first printed either on the 7th or 15th of October 1963 so the 50th anniversary of the term has either gone by or will be very soon without any mention from Apple (no surprise really). 

Suppose it saves us the disappointment when Apple charges us a fortune for their ballsed-up half-arsed attempt at it.

Am I really that slow? The 15th. Paul's "New" album. I'm just now connecting the dots. Duh. Where's the dunce hat icon? Make mine extra gaudy.

 

10 October 2013
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They may have just ended up getting so many BBC tapes that they decided to release the 2nd volume that's coming out, instead. 

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This project died a death silently several months ago and I only noticed when I went to check the website and it was gone. I also think it was just a way for Apple to get stuff from collectors to pad their archives. Kind of sleazy if you ask me!

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They still have their facebook page, and it's still on The Beatles.com.

It could be that since collecting together all the material, and they did seem to have a reasonable amount come in, they are now in the period of restoring it and starting to put it together. Remember, the first stage (which is what they announced it as last year) was always going to be quite quick and openly public.

It wouldn't surprise me if we hear nothing more publicly until it's approaching completion. It might be something for next year and the 50th anniversary of the first major world tours (US, Australia, etc.).

Just a thought...

 

 

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There also might be the chance that they really didn't get anything they didn't already have.

I'm sure the vast majority of recordings and videos out there have already surfaced, and most of what's left is a lot of raw news footage of the boys getting loaded into cars and waving.

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10 October 2013
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Strange how the Let It Be movie is in the "getting it together due to a load of new material appearing" phase, and now, after an appeal is lodged, The Beatles Live disappears from the face of the Earth. This is the one of the numerous examples of how Apple manages to piss off everyone - especially me. Some announcement is made and then they shut up shop and tell us f' all before popping up with an announcement of new exclusive collectables that are a must for every Beatles fan - or in normal everyday language "expensive shit no one really gives a toss about". Anyone want an official Beatles Tobacco Rinser so you can wash your tobacco before smoking it well mention it to Apple and they will put it out in a few months and charge you $89 for it.

Most bands would celebrate 50th anniversary's of their big albums with outtakes, demos etc released for the fans. Apple sit on their back-sides watching the world go by until Christmas comes round and offer us have some fucking tinsel for 8 quid. 

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^ Indeed MMM, they should take a look at how Springsteen packaged the anniversary sets of "Born to Run" and "Darkness" for examples.  I also have an awesome anniversary "Joshua Tree" box from U2.

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