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In the Tyrol
21 October 2012
4.41pm
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Last week I saw the San Francisco Opera perform Wagner's Lohengrin and I loved it! During the prelude to Act III, I was thrilled to hear some music that I actually recognized. Usually when I recognize a piece of opera, it's thanks to Bugs Bunny and "Looney Tunes". This time, however, it was thanks to THE BEATLES!

In addition to the songs that THE BEATLES sang during the movie, on the original Capitol / United Artists release of Help!, there was some incidental music as well. This included a song titled "In the Tyrol". Most of this is an interpretation straight from Wagner's Act III prelude to Lohengrin.

So, how did they come up with the title "In the Tyrol"? Tyrol is a section of Austria. Is this where THE BEATLES went skiing during the "Ticket To Ride" scene? Is it a play on Wagner's being German? Is there any significance as to why this piece was chosen?

Also, "In the Tyrol" begins with about 35 seconds and then ends with about 20 seconds of a marching band playing an unrelated song that sandwiches the prelude to Act III of Lohengrin. What's that about? It is not part of the scene featuring the Wagner composition. Lohengrin is featured in the scene when Paul has shrunk and is sitting in an ash tray getting doused by red liquid while the rest of the boys are fighting off an attack in their apartment. Remember that?

Is the addition of the marching band to "in the Tyrol" just some strange decision by United Artists and Capitol to throw in some more incidental music even though it was not the way that it sounded on the film?

It's been quite a while since I've watched Help!, so I'm not sure at what part of the movie this strange marching band song is performed. Anyone know what I'm talking about and where in the movie the marching band music is?

OK, it's Week #3 for me on Beatles Bible and it's my third set of bizarre questions. Thanks in advance for your help!

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21 October 2012
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Isnt that the marching band with the attack on the snow. Clang skies down some slope and wins the competition so i presume either its the national anthem of Clangs or the tune of the ski competition which is played at the award ceremony.

I may be in the wrong place as i havent seen Help! in ages and its another dvd i dont own. I need to read the novel again.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
21 October 2012
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Thank you! Yes, the strange marching band music, that in the movie shows John, George, and Ringo playing in and George taking a bite out of his cymbal, is during the award's ceremony for the skiing competition. I just found that on Youtube.

Now, why does that music sandwich the prelude to Act III of Wagner's Lohengrin on the Help! soundtrack?

Why is it titled "In the Tyrol"? Skiing in Austria?

Any other theories or answers as to why these musical selections were chosen for the movie and placed together on the album?

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21 October 2012
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Why was the Barber of Seville used at the end during the credits after Help! (tho its totally amazing and should have been on the US soundtrack and why wasnt it)? Ken Thorne did the soundtrack so it was probably his decision what was used. Maybe they just fitted those parts and there is nothing more to it.

   

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24 January 2013
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meanmistermustard said
Isnt that the marching band with the attack on the snow. Clang skies down some slope and wins the competition so i presume either its the national anthem of Clangs or the tune of the ski competition which is played at the award ceremony.

I may be in the wrong place as i havent seen Help! in ages and its another dvd i dont own. I need to read the novel again.


meanmistermustard said

Isnt that the marching band with the attack on the snow. Clang skies down some slope and wins the competition so i presume either its the national anthem of Clangs or the tune of the ski competition which is played at the award ceremony.

I may be in the wrong place as i havent seen Help! in ages and its another dvd i dont own. I need to read the novel again.

 

24 January 2013
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Ah , FINALLY ! A place to Type something INto > lol  … I have wanted to know what that ( I call it a Transylvanian March / National Anthem ) short March is ForEVER ! Yes – I am quite sure it's in there because Clang ( I didn't know / remember his character name so that's a start )( He kinda reminds one of 'Uncle Fester – (my other 'nick' ) inadvertantly wins the Ski jump Competition ( I can just see the Orchestra scrambling to find the Anthem music for {Lower Slobenia – ? HaHa ] … Anyways – Who wrote that little March ? is what I want to know – The Beatles ? Does it have a name ? It seems like it outta appear somewhere as something other than "Obtuse March in the production notes  lol

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