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4 April 2010
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You're right… back on track. For me, there is always something adoring to say about The Anthology…

Have you seen the Director's Cut? I think it's interesting to see what they left out of the final version. For example, John talking about breaking the stage in Hamburg… wonder why that didn't make the final cut?

I would actually love to see a well-researched 3-hour (or more!) documentary on their Hamburg days. Ken Burns, I'm looking at you! (lol) (For you non-Yanks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns)

4 April 2010
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He has the hair at least:

But seriously, he could probably do a good job. I didn't see his documentary on Jazz but I remember the one on the American Civil War was good.

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4 April 2010
6.02pm
iCaramba
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Yeah, I have always suspected that Burns must be a big Beatles fan.

Clue #1 – He's obviously into music.

Clue #2 – He was born at the right time. I think every single English-speaking person born in 1953 has a deep respect and abiding affection for The Fabs.

Clue #3 – The hair!

He would do an unbelievably good job!

5 April 2010
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I sometimes find American things about The Beatles slightly irritating because they generally focus mainly on The Beatles in America (for obvious reasons). Not always but sometimes. The Beatles: Rock Band did that by only having one venue per year. But if it was a documentary about the Hamburg days, then clearly none of this would be a problem.

 

What's the Director's Cut of Anthology? How do you see it?

5 April 2010
9.16pm
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I can understand your reservation, but if Ken Burns were to do a documentary on The Fabs, you can rest assured it would be magnificent! (And appropriately British-slanted.)

Here's a link to the Director's Cut on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/view_pl.....or%27s+cut

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7 April 2010
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Where did the Director's Cut come from? It's not mentioned on The Beatles official websites or stores or Wikipedia.

7 April 2010
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the original TV version was a slightly edited version. The DVD release (and the VHS too?) was the full-length one. Info here: http://www.geetarz.org/reviews.....gy-dvd.htm

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7 April 2010
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That site says the Director's Cut is 10 discs.  Amazon's only DVD set has 5 discs.  I'm confused.

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7 April 2010
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jenn said:

That site says the Director's Cut is 10 discs.  Amazon's only DVD set has 5 discs.  I'm confused.


 

The normal version of Anthology is 5 discs (4 discs and a special features disc).

That website that Joe mentioned is the only info about a Director's Cut I can find. At this point I'm thinking it might be fake or an illegal bootleg since Apple aren't selling it and according to the website it has no credits (no one would make a film/TV programme without credits).

7 April 2010
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Joe said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the original TV version was a slightly edited version. The DVD release (and the VHS too?) was the full-length one.


 

That's correct. The TV version is missing the bad words (which were surprisingly sparse) and assorted other naughty bits… plus, I think the performances were cut shorter.

The Director's Cut is, I believe, a bootleg. There's a discussion about it here and somewhere here. It's also available on eBay, but I'm not sure it's legal...

8 April 2010
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There's a good description in this thread: http://www.beatlelinks.net/for.....p?p=453642

I didn't know the Director's Cut existed before. It sounds really interesting. I wonder how it became circulated on bootleg - the security in one of the production companies involved must have been pretty lax.

Here's a good description of the differences in the versions: http://www.giginjapan.com/scan.....ct-cut.htm

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8 April 2010
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It sounds good but after just watching the DVDs twice in the last couple of weeks, I think I'll wait a while before watching this one. It seems like it's more of a rough cut than most director's cuts. The bad quality of some of the old VHS footage might be annoying. It'll be interesting to hear some of the "uncensored" comments on Yoko Ono.

 

On a completely unrelated note, does anyone know what the "Savage Young Beatles" cover is in the Anthology collage?

9 April 2010
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McLerristarr said:

On a completely unrelated note, does anyone know what the "Savage Young Beatles" cover is in the Anthology collage?


 

It was an album of stuff they recorded with Sheridan in the Hamburg days. (Check it out.) 

 

Joe said:

I wonder how it became circulated on bootleg – the security in one of the production companies involved must have been pretty lax.


 

Yeah, that's what I understand. Obviously it was never meant for major release… it must have been snuck out somehow.

What I would love to see are some of the bits that Paul or Yoko nixed. Must be some juicy stuff on the cutting room floor… especially from George!

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9 April 2010
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iCaramba said:

McLerristarr said:

On a completely unrelated note, does anyone know what the "Savage Young Beatles" cover is in the Anthology collage?


 

It was an album of stuff they recorded with Sheridan in the Hamburg days. (Check it out.)  

 


 

So it's basically another version of the My Bonnie album. Apple Corps should probably buy the rights to that stuff and put out a proper version with all the songs (but without the songs The Beatles weren't on).

9 April 2010
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Hang on though, that Amazon link is obviously a CD compilation of the Hamburg tracks. But where did the title phrase come from originally? I presume it was from a gig poster back in the day, hence its inclusion on the Anthology cover. I'm not aware of any 1960s album of that name, though I may be wrong.

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Well, on the Anthology album cover, the poster says "The Savage Young Beatles" at the top and "Recorded by The Beatles Hamburg" at the bottom. Underneath are the names of songs – only three are not ripped off: 'Cry For A Shadow', 'Let's Dance' and something that starts with 'If You Love…'.

EDIT: From looking at the album cover on Amazon (which appears to be the same one), the third song is 'If You Love Me, Baby' but I can't make out the rest (the picture has low resolution). The songs that are on the cover are not all the same as the songs Amazon say are on the album.

11 April 2010
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I just watched  Anthology a few days ago. Again. :). There's always something new I pick up on, or something I had forgotten get's triggered. This last time it was when the boys got jailed in Germany for disturbing the peace.

12 April 2010
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Joe said:

Hang on though, that Amazon link is obviously a CD compilation of the Hamburg tracks. But where did the title phrase come from originally? I presume it was from a gig poster back in the day, hence its inclusion on the Anthology cover. I'm not aware of any 1960s album of that name, though I may be wrong.


 

The first I ever heard of that term was when I saw the compilation album… I have tried to find it mentioned in bios but I haven't located it. It's a cool term… very appropriate for their Hamburg days! I'll keep researching it… I'm curious to know what the origin really is.

 

[EDIT: Apparently, the lp did first come out in the '60s. Check this out.]

 

I have a question from the Anthology. When George talks about Ringo playing with them at The Cavern for the first time, he mentions that he got hit by a bus. (?!) I don't recall reading about that… what happened?

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5 May 2010
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Well I can't say a favorite moment in the Anthology, I think you have said many... Georgeisms like "He was always nine months older" or the "It was handy to have a number one". I love Ringo and George Martin exchange like "Oh he still has those scars" or something like that..  and the performances... I truly enjoy when the guys visited America for the first time, when they're calling all those radio stations...

 

I think the moment I feel like a hole is when John says about feeling safe in the scenario, like saying "I feel they're never going to get me" or something like that. That always makes me feel soo sad...

 

 

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I think my favorite part of the anthology was when George was describing their visit to Elvis, and he says that they forget how who they were going to see when they got there, and then they all just tumbled out of the car, like in the old Beatles cartoons, and he does a little "tee-hee" laugh that always cracks me up.

The Phillipines trip is always a funny/horrifying thing to hear about, with the "tell Lil I love her" part as described by George when Mal Evans thought he was going to be trapped in that awful country for the rest of his life.

Overall it is a great viewing experience, and actually my favorite part now that I'm thinking about it is in the extra's when the 3 of them are sitting in George's garden and George is playing the ukulele and he and Paul are singing "Ain't She Sweet".

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