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The Night That Changed America – A Grammy Salute
12 February 2014
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parlance said

fabfouremily said
EDIT: Mja posted before me. Maybe she wasn't even there, then.

I sent an email to my friend to double-check. I did find it odd there were no wire images of her from the event, but celebrities don't always opt to pose.

Edit: False alarm, she saw Peter Asher and thought a woman with him was Jane.

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I forgot to thank you for your double-check, parlance. I had exactly the same thought it seems you did, a picture! I Googled Jane and news - wanting to discover any picture there might be - and found all the Moon Tiger articles. While they didn't entirely rule out the possibility, it did make it look unlikely to me, so you have my thanks for looking further into what you had heard.

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Billy Rhythm said
I kinda have mixed feelings from watching the show.  First up, I didn't bother with the various artists doing their tributes, although I wished that I had of for I forgot all about Dhani Harrison, I first started watching during Ringo's riveting (as always) performance of 'Boys' so I guess I missed 'Matchbox' or something.  Ringo looked and sounded great, not only does he continue to show the excitement and exhuberance of a man half his age but his voice still sounds as good as it did on 1973's 'Ringo' album.  Paul, on the other hand, doesn't sound so much like Paul anymore I'm afraid to say and I'm having a harder time stomaching listening his voice these days which appears to be deteriorating rapidly, it's not too bad on the mellower ballads but he really should stop trying to belt out 'Birthday' at his age, there was a thread the other day where a few of you laid into the tribute bands but most of them sound a helluva lot better than Paul did last night, I'm sorry.  Paul gets away with it because he's Sir Paul and he usually has a band covering for him, but even the others sounded a bit off last night or like their best performances were long behind them as well.

 

That's not to say that the night wasn't full of nice moments, but if it weren't for the star studded audience strutting their stuff, I'd have to think that the reviews wouldn't have been that great for the spotlight would then be shone on the subpar performances.  Paul's set was salvaged eventually at the end with 'Hey Jude' which always seems to succeed, and seeing (I wish I could've heard him too) Ringo drumming again on the song was the highlight of the show for me, Ringo looked like he was into that one and probably would've sounded great had the soundman not preferred Abe's drums for the mix.  Paul made a comment about feeling uneasy about doing the show while onstage, something about "doing a tribute to himself" which was almost what it really felt like to me, someone doing a tribute of someone else other than him and it showed.  The previous Paul/Ringo reunions had a brilliance to them that this one lacked, perhaps because none of the others were as hyped as this one to be fair.  Just compare last night's version of 'With A Little Help From My Friends' to the last time they played it together (2009 I believe) and the Grammy rendition sounds like a bad take by comparison, not Ringo's "Johnny-One-Note" vocals, but the band is all over the place, maybe too much celebrating before the show?

 

The one thing that kept going through my mind while watching this was that this could very possibly be the last time that we see them onstage together ever again, and although that prospect saddened me before switching on the show, it now feels like absolutely the right thing to do after seeing it, there's a "Las Vegas-style" washed up kinda feeling creeping over the musicianship.  The 'Hey Jude' finale was pretty good and they should leave it at that, nice images of Paul & Ringo playing together for ole times sake and leave the tributes for the tribute acts for they're much better at it than they are at this stage in their lives...:-)  

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. 

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Still haven't gotten the hang of that quoting thing yet...

Billy Rhythm said:

First up, I didn't bother with the various artists doing their tributes, although I wished that I had of for I forgot all about Dhani Harrison

Billy, later in your post you talk as if you saw more of the show, so i'm not sure what you meant exactly, but you really should check out the covers.  For the guitar duos alone (one was truly for the ages).  Plus as you've probably seen by other posts that there were some really well done covers.  The whole show was really well done, granted a lot of the stuff they talked about we already know, like the beatles' childhoods and stuff, although I learned a couple things.  Oh, and yes Dhani played, a real part, and sang.  It's incredible how much he sounds like George.

-Mike (who wants to insert a smiley of George but needs new glasses and atm can't make out which smiles are who lol)

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12 February 2014
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Billy Rhythm said

Did you catch this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....Ukm78l9xoI

Thanks for posting this Billy, I hadn't caught it, and in fact it's the first I've seen Sean perform (I'm pretty sure).  I thought he did a really good interpretation of it, and liked the arrangement (mostly), but agreed with someone you aquoted who said they would hage liked to have seen 'Hey Jude'.

 

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kermy said
Still haven't gotten the hang of that quoting thing yet...

I'll send you more info on our PM thread. I'll get the young master Faceo in on the conversation, too. Quite a helpful young lad.

12 February 2014
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Here's a link to the whole thing.

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13 February 2014
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parlance said
Here's a link to the whole thing.

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it's already gone

-mike

 

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kermy said

parlance said
Here's a link to the whole thing.

parlance

it's already gone

-mike

 

Yep, I got the same thing, kermy. Poof.

13 February 2014
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I watched the Encore presentation to see it again, and boy, is Yoko's dancing hilarious. It's like she's swimming.

Nancy was dancing pretty badly too. 

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13 February 2014
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Ahhh Girl said

kermy said

parlance said
Here's a link to the whole thing.

parlance

it's already gone

-mike

 

Yep, I got the same thing, kermy. Poof.

It was up for some period of time, when i first read parlance's post it worked, but i didn't watch it, i was just checking it to send it to my son, who's in the seminary and surely couldn't watch it sunday evening. tg for dvrs -kerm

 

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13 February 2014
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Glad to see you got the quoting thing down now!

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13 February 2014
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mja6758 said
Glad to see you got the quoting thing down now!

Yes, he did. Yay, kermy! No need for me to do those screen shots now. 

13 February 2014
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My friend was telling me about this Grammy-tribute thing just last night with delighted revulsion, said it was full of loathsome people like John Mayer, whom we both despise. Good thing I didn't watch or I might've kicked my TV screen in! I've never given the Grammys any regard whatsoever, so nbd.

Guess I'm sorry if there were any really good bits I missed...

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13 February 2014
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Agree with von Bontee.  The Grammys don't mean anything.  There are plenty of great records that have never won Grammys but I'm not going to say to myself "I won't listen to that because it never won a Grammy".

13 February 2014
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I thought most of them were OK.

On either side of the spectrum I have

HORRIBLE

Katy Perry's Yesterday. The changed pronouns basically ruined it for me. Singing wasn't that good anyway, and what was she wearing? It looked like a curtain.

BAD

None. Nothing was just a little on the bad side. That's good, I guess.

GOOD

Imagine Dragons' Revolution. I may be prebiased (is that a word) here considering how much I love them, but I really liked their different take on it.

Ed Sheeran's In My Life. He can really sing, I really liked this. Only thing that bothered me was his little hum solo.

John Mayer and Keith Urban's Don't Let Me Down. I don't have that much to say about it, but I love the way they went from John's rooftop performance in to this.

INCREDIBLE

Dave Grohl and Jeff Lynne's Hey Bulldog. Grohl'll show up again, but this was great. Perfectly rocking, and really, Dave Grohl is probably my second favorite single musician. He's great.

Gary Clark Jr, Joe Walsh, and Dave Grohl's While My Guitar Gently Weeps. This was incredible. Fantastic. Electrifying. This was a great teaming, and really rocked. Grohl's frontman career leads you to forget how great of a drummer he is, and it showed on this. Clark is, in my opinion, one of the greatest current guitarists. That solo was searing. This was easily the best of the tribute songs.

UNFAIR TO EVERYONE OTHER HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET

Paul and Ringo. These guys are incredible.

No one else has the ability to make people so happy so easily, and they look like they're having so much fun. It's incredible to watch. Did you see Grohl when Ringo pointed out him and his daughter during Yellow Submarine? Pure joy.

I love them so much. This is why we're all here.

I was the oposite of you.  I loved the Katy Perry and hated the Imagine Dragons.

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13 February 2014
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I was the oposite of you.  I loved the Katy Perry and hated the Imagine Dragons.

I actually liked both. I'm glad to see one other person enjoyed Katy Perry's performance. I was beginning to think I was hearing a different show.

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parlance said

Expert Textpert said
I was the oposite of you.  I loved the Katy Perry and hated the Imagine Dragons.

I actually liked both. I'm glad to see one other person enjoyed Katy Perry's performance. I was beginning to think I was hearing a different show.

parlance

I thought her performance was very tasteful and emotional, and judging from Paul's reaction I think he felt the same.

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13 February 2014
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Expert Textpert said

parlance said

I'm glad to see one other person enjoyed Katy Perry's performance. I was beginning to think I was hearing a different show.
parlance

I thought her performance was very tasteful and emotional, and judging from Paul's reaction I think he felt the same.

One thing that floored me about some of the criticism is that she changed the pronouns. It's funny that that would offend people, because that's exactly how I performed the song when I was a kid. It wasn't a big deal to me.

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As someone said upthread, it would've been weird if she hadn't changed the 'she' to 'he'. Don't entirely get what all the fuss is about, really.

''We're just knocked out. We heard about the sell out. You gotta get an album out, you owe it to the people. We're so happy we can hardly count.''

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Let's be honest, there's something strange when we hear Ringo declare, "I'm talking about boys"! One of the times where they didn't make alterations to gender when covering a girl group song.

If they saw no problem changing the gender references when necessary with their covers, I see no problem with a female performer doing the same with their work.

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