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The Night That Changed America – A Grammy Salute
10 February 2014
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They look like the same topic now having merged as time went on. 

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10 February 2014
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They are the same show. Maybe you should merge and retitle the thread. The show was called: The Night That Changed America - A Grammy Salute.

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10 February 2014
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Right I'll merge them, then. This'll be fun, merging two threads that have 2 and 3 pages each.

Sorry about this everyone. This is my fault. I've been a bit lousy here.

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10 February 2014
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fabfouremily said
Yes, that dress is interesting...ahdn_george_01

Presumably its one of those creations you see being traipsed down catwalks, designed by high-faluting designers and cost thousands, but no one with half a brain would go out in. Bloody hideous.

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10 February 2014
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:lol:

I thought Paul and Ringo were the best-dressed of all, and I'm not even letting my bias into my opinion... :D

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10 February 2014
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I kinda have mixed feelings from watching the show.  First up, I didn't bother with the various artists doing their tributes, although I wished that I had of for I forgot all about Dhani Harrison, I first started watching during Ringo's riveting (as always) performance of 'Boys' so I guess I missed 'Matchbox' or something.  Ringo looked and sounded great, not only does he continue to show the excitement and exhuberance of a man half his age but his voice still sounds as good as it did on 1973's 'Ringo' album.  Paul, on the other hand, doesn't sound so much like Paul anymore I'm afraid to say and I'm having a harder time stomaching listening his voice these days which appears to be deteriorating rapidly, it's not too bad on the mellower ballads but he really should stop trying to belt out 'Birthday' at his age, there was a thread the other day where a few of you laid into the tribute bands but most of them sound a helluva lot better than Paul did last night, I'm sorry.  Paul gets away with it because he's Sir Paul and he usually has a band covering for him, but even the others sounded a bit off last night or like their best performances were long behind them as well.

 

That's not to say that the night wasn't full of nice moments, but if it weren't for the star studded audience strutting their stuff, I'd have to think that the reviews wouldn't have been that great for the spotlight would then be shone on the subpar performances.  Paul's set was salvaged eventually at the end with 'Hey Jude' which always seems to succeed, and seeing (I wish I could've heard him too) Ringo drumming again on the song was the highlight of the show for me, Ringo looked like he was into that one and probably would've sounded great had the soundman not preferred Abe's drums for the mix.  Paul made a comment about feeling uneasy about doing the show while onstage, something about "doing a tribute to himself" which was almost what it really felt like to me, someone doing a tribute of someone else other than him and it showed.  The previous Paul/Ringo reunions had a brilliance to them that this one lacked, perhaps because none of the others were as hyped as this one to be fair.  Just compare last night's version of 'With A Little Help From My Friends' to the last time they played it together (2009 I believe) and the Grammy rendition sounds like a bad take by comparison, not Ringo's "Johnny-One-Note" vocals, but the band is all over the place, maybe too much celebrating before the show?

 

The one thing that kept going through my mind while watching this was that this could very possibly be the last time that we see them onstage together ever again, and although that prospect saddened me before switching on the show, it now feels like absolutely the right thing to do after seeing it, there's a "Las Vegas-style" washed up kinda feeling creeping over the musicianship.  The 'Hey Jude' finale was pretty good and they should leave it at that, nice images of Paul & Ringo playing together for ole times sake and leave the tributes for the tribute acts for they're much better at it than they are at this stage in their lives...:-)  

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fabfouremily said
Right I'll merge them, then. This'll be fun, merging two threads that have 2 and 3 pages each.

Sorry about this everyone. This is my fault. I've been a bit lousy here.

Thanks!  a-hard-days-night-john-1

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10 February 2014
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I thought most of them were OK.

On either side of the spectrum I have

HORRIBLE

Katy Perry's Yesterday. The changed pronouns basically ruined it for me. Singing wasn't that good anyway, and what was she wearing? It looked like a curtain.

BAD

None. Nothing was just a little on the bad side. That's good, I guess.

GOOD

Imagine Dragons' Revolution. I may be prebiased (is that a word) here considering how much I love them, but I really liked their different take on it.

Ed Sheeran's In My Life. He can really sing, I really liked this. Only thing that bothered me was his little hum solo.

John Mayer and Keith Urban's Don't Let Me Down. I don't have that much to say about it, but I love the way they went from John's rooftop performance in to this.

INCREDIBLE

Dave Grohl and Jeff Lynne's Hey Bulldog. Grohl'll show up again, but this was great. Perfectly rocking, and really, Dave Grohl is probably my second favorite single musician. He's great.

Gary Clark Jr, Joe Walsh, and Dave Grohl's While My Guitar Gently Weeps. This was incredible. Fantastic. Electrifying. This was a great teaming, and really rocked. Grohl's frontman career leads you to forget how great of a drummer he is, and it showed on this. Clark is, in my opinion, one of the greatest current guitarists. That solo was searing. This was easily the best of the tribute songs.

UNFAIR TO EVERYONE OTHER HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET

Paul and Ringo. These guys are incredible.

No one else has the ability to make people so happy so easily, and they look like they're having so much fun. It's incredible to watch. Did you see Grohl when Ringo pointed out him and his daughter during Yellow Submarine? Pure joy.

I love them so much. This is why we're all here.

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10 February 2014
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As I suspected, Julian wasn't not invited, but chose not to be there. His choice.

 

"because it didn't look like there was going to be an opportunity to perform" when he should have been one of the first given consideration, especially when Dhani who was born long after The Beatles split was slotted in.  At the end of the day, Paul, Ringo, Yoko & Olivia control how The Beatles' music is presented and anyone of the four can veto any prospect, the four of them approved of Dhani being onstage and offered no opportunity to Julian which is an obvious snub.  So even if they did extend an invitation to Julian (which I highly doubt considering that he wasn't even invited to Paul & Nancy's wedding) to sit in the audience, it was likely under the premise that he wouldn't accept it.  "Sure Jules, sit here with Yoko to make it look like all is well to the world (never mind what your Mom thinks while watching) and enjoy the many years younger Dhani who hasn't had the commercial success that you've had perform onstage where you should be".  This is just the latest in a long string of snubs to Julian Lennon   http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/s.....41541.html  who played a much more significant role in The Beatles' legacy than anybody else on that stage last night (including Jeff Lynne), save for Paul & Ringo, but sadly he continues to fade further to the shadows and nobody seems to really care, that's most unfortunate to me...:-)

10 February 2014
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It is a shame. I feel like Paul should do something about this long line of ''snubs''. Okay, so maybe he doesn't have to be there for everything, but some of it surely? He plays the same role as Dhani and Sean, so I don't really understand it. Maybe if John had had more contact with him then they'd be more likely to invite him to these things.

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I thought most of them were OK.

On either side of the spectrum I have

HORRIBLE

Katy Perry's Yesterday. The changed pronouns basically ruined it for me. Singing wasn't that good anyway, and what was she wearing? It looked like a curtain.

BAD

None. Nothing was just a little on the bad side. That's good, I guess.

GOOD

Imagine Dragons' Revolution. I may be prebiased (is that a word) here considering how much I love them, but I really liked their different take on it.

Ed Sheeran's In My Life. He can really sing, I really liked this. Only thing that bothered me was his little hum solo.

John Mayer and Keith Urban's Don't Let Me Down. I don't have that much to say about it, but I love the way they went from John's rooftop performance in to this.

INCREDIBLE

Dave Grohl and Jeff Lynne's Hey Bulldog. Grohl'll show up again, but this was great. Perfectly rocking, and really, Dave Grohl is probably my second favorite single musician. He's great.

Gary Clark Jr, Joe Walsh, and Dave Grohl's While My Guitar Gently Weeps. This was incredible. Fantastic. Electrifying. This was a great teaming, and really rocked. Grohl's frontman career leads you to forget how great of a drummer he is, and it showed on this. Clark is, in my opinion, one of the greatest current guitarists. That solo was searing. This was easily the best of the tribute songs.

UNFAIR TO EVERYONE OTHER HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET

Paul and Ringo. These guys are incredible.

No one else has the ability to make people so happy so easily, and they look like they're having so much fun. It's incredible to watch. Did you see Grohl when Ringo pointed out him and his daughter during Yellow Submarine? Pure joy.

I love them so much. This is why we're all here.

* To be fair to Katy Perry, it'd sound a little weird for her to sing "half the man I used to be" when She's A Woman. I know Ringo sings about boys in "Boys," but to be honest, if Katy sang "half the man," then I'd find that weird. Maybe she should have covered "Fool On The Hill" instead, as I thought Annie Lennox went completely overboard with her rendition of it.

* Urban and Mayer's performance was the one weak spot of the night, I felt. They did a better take on "Don't Let Me Down" on the CMT country/rock performance show Crossroads some years ago. (Wife: "Why the hell does Keith Urban have Kate Gosselin's hair?")

* Agreed on the Sheeran humming, but without a harpsichord (or at least a piano), the break was going to sound odd, so I guess he felt he had to fill it himself.

* Dave Grohl kicks ass. Nothing more to say. And how lucky is his little girl to see her and her dad's icons live and in concert?

* Gary Clark/Joe Walsh. WOW. I was thinking "This is an odd pairing" at first, but by the end, it was all I could do not to applaud myself. That was amazing. Best performance of the night, and only Ringo's awesome "Yellow Submarine" comes close.

* 2nd best performance of the night other than "Yellow Submarine": Alicia Keys/John Legend with "Let It Be," even though John loves to hear himself sing.

* Ringo is 73 years old, and had more energy than everyone there. God bless the man. And if that's how he does "Yellow Submarine" during his All-Starr shows, I bet it's a heck of a spectacle live.

* Not a fan of Maroon 5, but they represented themselves well. 

* Finally, Paul... I tend to agree with Billy Rhythm, although Paul held up fine on "Get Back."

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Here's my impression of the show.  Apologies for the randomness and length. 

Most importantly, it was GREAT to see ringo so healthy! last time i saw a clip of him he seemed kindof out of it. Damn healthy. healthier than me (51yo).

remember it was designed for an american tv audience - people like us obviously have our big and little issues with it, but remember the target audience.  i dvr'd it and am watching for the 3rd time already. 

It was really well done. Technically near-perfect (Did anyone else notice the stagehand who didn't quite get out of the way in time?), Top performances and performers. Due reverence given, it wasn't overdone at all.

The bios were perfect for the viewing audience.

I thought they were generally a little heavy on the arrangements, given they were a 4 man band some of the backup singing and even some of the instruments could have been reduced...but this is only a serious problem to me in one song, Here Comes The Sun.

The letterman interviews were great, learned some things. The merging into the live versions was a cool effect. In While My Guitar Gently Weeps,. who knew joe walsh could still belt out those high notes in his low register (don't think he even has a falsetto)! And the guitar duel was one for the ages. really.  On par with say, Beck/Clapton duels, or richards/wood. 

They could have showed Yoko (the showoff - obligatory yoko bash) less and other people more (dhani?). Speaking of him, where the hell was Julian?  It is criminal that he wasn't there.  I don't blame him though, if he was invited and didn't come. 

Dhani's voice sounds so much like his father it gave me chills.

The story about the crickets and the beatles (naming the groups) was great! 

Bulldog rocked out.  i'm i can say my father, myself, and my first son's favorite band is the beatles :)  Fool on the hill is the first song i remember where i was when i heard the first time at age 3 :)  The eurythmics were unremarkable i thought.   Joe walsh on Something - am i imagining it or did he play george's version note by note, but muddle just a couple riffs that i know he could have played, in deference to George perhaps? Revolution - excellent and interesting group/performance. 

I'm surprised they didn't mention that they (George at least) was a serious Teddy.  I guess it would have taken too long to explain. 

Here Comes The Sun - could've done without cirqe de soleil - very very nice, I am now a pharrel williams fan - also this is one of my very fave songs.  Loved that single harmonic at the end by frampton, i think (i watched it over and over and i think he hit it with pinky on fret when he was bringing his hand back up from the last chord).  Paul re yesterday - "Are you nervous" - whoa! How the heck did they pull off that first show anyway? (yes i know yesterday wasn't the first show but the first show was like barely put together). 

Bulldog was a rockin version, at least paul knew the lyrics. 

Don't let me down - nice that they included the rooftop concert it for the millions who didn't even know about it - and they included the part where john muddled the first refrain - nice merge to john and keith - great rendition, lots of feeling - great guitar, reverently understated - very excellent guitar jam (not the best of the night though).  I was pleased to see Kenny Aronoff was onstage at points, I think he was one of the guitarists in the 4 in the upper back stage right (he has played with John Mellencamp for decades).

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someone said (i haven't figured out how you do the quotes in the box with italics - if someone wants to point me to a newbie section here feel free - this place is so amazing i only discovered it 2 days ago.  you guys are so damn knowledgeable.  The beatles have always been my favorite band (during my teen years i went through a few other band phases).

"Dave Grohl with his daughter that loves the Beatles was the cutest thing ever."

My father's favorite band was the beatles, my favorite band is the beatles, my oldest son's favorite band is the beatles.

"I was very pleased with the songs that Paul and Ringo chose, especially "Sgt Peppper" and "Boys"! "

the Sgt. Pepper->With A Little Help From My Friends was the obvious choice to start off the "duet' set.  Ringo might have hit 3 different notes in the whole song lol.  i still loved it of course.

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On the Julian snub…..

 

If it's true that there is a veto policy and Yoko has an equal vote then there's not much Paul can do. 

 

………….But I do think Paul is a good family man and I think unless Julian has caused him some problem I reckon he'd count Julian as a part of the Beatles family.

The fact that Paul always seem to give Yoko a free ride???  I suspect she has some hold over him. Something he doesn't want spoken of.

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It was posted elsewhere that Julian chose not to go as he didnt want to travel to the US to attend a Beatles show where he would sit in the audience and feel he was watching karaoke and must clap alone. I can understand that and fair play to him for not feeling like he had to be there and go under duress.

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kermy said
someone said (i haven't figured out how you do the quotes in the box with italics - if someone wants to point me to a newbie section here feel free - this place is so amazing i only discovered it 2 days ago.  you guys are so damn knowledgeable.  The beatles have always been my favorite band (during my teen years i went through a few other band phases).

Hi kermy. Here's the thread where you would introduce yourself and proudly and unashamedly proclaim your Beatlemaniac status:

http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....on-thread/

 

 

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It was posted elsewhere that Julian chose not to go as he didnt want to travel to the US to attend a Beatles show where he would sit in the audience and feel he was watching karaoke and must clap alone. I can understand that and fair play to him for not feeling like he had to be there and go under duress.

Hmmm... he seemed quite bitter about it to me (on his fb page). Completely understandsble. If he didn't want to go though then that's fair enough.

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What was writing on Facebook Emily? 

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Just what comment on his fb page? I'm looking and just seeing pictures of him in Ethiopia right now working on water projects, and a reference to him curating the photo exhibition that is part of the 50th celebration.

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