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The Night That Changed America – A Grammy Salute
18 February 2014
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MattBusby said

ivaughan said
I watched it and it was fine though I wish they had gotten acts that would have pleased Paul and Ringo a bit more and whom were a bit more influenced by The Beatles than the acts we saw. Stevie Wonder was great as always though, I'll say that. 

Best moment of the night is when Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics came out with his beard and sunglasses and Paul turned to Ringo and said, "It's Ringo!" and Ringo started laughing. You couldn't hear Paul but you could read his lips. Still, would have been nice if they could have had people like Smokey Robinson or Paul Simon, etc.

Ok this is my 3rd time at this, and the quoting looks like it's working at least.

I agree they could have picked better introducers (i know that's not a word lol).  Meryl Streep comes to mind.  If they needed current musicians to help the ratings, at least they could have picked ones that were more directly influenced by the Beatles.  Not saying practically everyone in music hasn't been influenced in some way by the Beatles, but say, Donovan, if he's still around, would have been good.

And I can't agree with you about Stevie Wonder.  I love the genius as much as everyone, but to me this was a poor interpretation.  I really couldn't pick a melody out of his singing at all, it was just like straining the high end of his low register and not quite making it.  Very surprising, and I can't fault him for trying something significantly different from the original (as opposed to Maroon 5, who appeared almost like a tribute band).

 

Actually, Stevie did the same We Can Work It Out he always does, which is his 1970 cover version.

Can I just say how ridiculously annoying and bad that backup singer is?

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18 February 2014
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Shoot I deleted my post, but it is quoted in its entirety by ivejust.

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18 February 2014
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Personally, Stevie's We Can Work It Out is by far my favourite cover of a Beatles song.

 

EDIT: Do you mean the backup singer in the original recording? It's probably Stevie himself.

18 February 2014
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ivaughan said
Personally, Stevie's We Can Work It Out is by far my favourite cover of a Beatles song.

 

EDIT: Do you mean the backup singer in the original recording? It's probably Stevie himself.

It's pretty fantastic. I love the "ah ah ah ah ah ahhhhhh We Can Work It Out

No, I'm pretty sure it's a female voice.

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18 February 2014
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Oh, I wasn't sure which part you meant! There's a hell of a lot of voices going on in that song! a-hard-days-night-john-6

 

But, yeah, Stevie also had a female back-up for this album that consisted of Lynda Tucker Laurence, Syreeta Wright, and Vanetta Fields.

18 February 2014
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ivaughan said
Oh, I wasn't sure which part you meant! There's a hell of a lot of voices going on in that song! a-hard-days-night-john-6

 

But, yeah, Stevie also had a female back-up for this album that consisted of Lynda Tucker Laurence, Syreeta Wright, and Vanetta Fields.

Syreeta (Stevie's ex-wife, sadly no longer with us) has also done a Beatles cover on her own...

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18 February 2014
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That's a great version too! After listening, it's no surprise to see that it's also produced by Stevie. That's gotta be his voice on the track too.

18 February 2014
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ivaughan said
Oh, I wasn't sure which part you meant! There's a hell of a lot of voices going on in that song! a-hard-days-night-john-6

 

But, yeah, Stevie also had a female back-up for this album that consisted of Lynda Tucker Laurence, Syreeta Wright, and Vanetta Fields.

Syreeta (Stevie's ex-wife, sadly no longer with us) has also done a Beatles cover on her own...

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18 February 2014
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I don't know about you guys but I was like... bursting out in tears when it ended...

Friend: Are you crying?

Me: No, I just got the Grammy Salute to The Beatles in my eye

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18 February 2014
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JojRongzandDuck said
I don't know about you guys but I was like... bursting out in tears when it ended...

Friend: Are you crying?

Me: No, I just got the Grammy Salute to The Beatles in my eye

I cry at _everything_.  Commercials, things that show extreme effort and dedication like the olympics, even bawled through an entire comedy movie once, yet enjoyed the humor at the same time.  But this brought no tears to me.  Who can say why? 

BTW,, JojRong, welcome to the beatlesbible and nice to meet you!  I've only been here about a week myself.  When you feel like it, there a thread for new members to post a little about their particular obsession with the Beatles and anything else you want to share at http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....on-thread/ (how do you replace the link itself with a word like "here"?)

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18 February 2014
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This show did not move me at all. I mean it was good but when I popped in my DVD of the Sullivan shows, and played the 2/9/64 (or 9/2/64 for the UK) show, that got me verklempt.

20 February 2014
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How is the crowd that listened to the Beatles music during the Grammy Salute different from the crowd that listened to them on the Ed Sullivan show back in 1964?

Snippets from the article

While there is much to celebrate about the Beatles coming to America, there is also much to regret, starting with the fact that while we may remember the music of the Beatles, we’ve lost sight of the hope for change and revolutionary spirit that were hallmarks of those days.

Fifty years later, while we may be inundated with a glut of music that passes for art and artists that pass for activists, with no shortage of national problems plaguing us (police abuse, endless wars, government corruption, government surveillance, inequality), we are sorely lacking individuals with the kind of radicalism and willingness to challenge the status quo. This is the difference between then and now, between an America that was ripe for the Beatles’ music and their message of change, and an America that is celebrating the Beatles’ music while oblivious to their radicalism.

Fifty years after America first fell in love with Lennon and his mop-top comrades, the Beatles’ legacy lives on — at least, their musical legacy lives on.

Yet while the Beatles’ greatest legacy was in effecting a revolution of spirit and mind, today we’re in dire need of revolutionaries willing to challenge the status quo.

He goes on to talk more in depth about Lennon's activism.

This isn't a call-to-arms post. I just thought this was an interesting comparative article.

21 February 2014
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Well, it's true. In the 60s all the way up into even the 90s, I'd say, the musicians and their dedicated fans really did believe that they were making art, that they had something to say, and that through their music they could change things. Since the late 90s, I'd say, music is no longer an artform (in general) so much as it's cheap entertainment as a commodity that means little to most people (mainly under 30, and I realize not EVERYONE under 30, but generally) apart from background music or music to party to.

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22 February 2014
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For anyone who lives in the Netherlands, it's airing toninght at 9 , so in an hour, on either NL1 or 3, not completely sure

 

22 February 2014
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Ah, thank y'all. I was fishing around Youtube. Just ordered it on Amazon. Two weeks from now they'll all be sold out.

I just copped mine from an amazon reseller for 12usd (about um, 8 uk lbs?) including shipping.  Amazon itself still has copies.  At least of the version I ordered.  I'm psyched, just for the old commercials (I like classic stuff) but of course for the performances.

 

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22 February 2014
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MattBusby said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Ah, thank y'all. I was fishing around Youtube. Just ordered it on Amazon. Two weeks from now they'll all be sold out.

I just copped mine from an amazon reseller for 12usd (about um, 8 uk lbs?) including shipping.  Amazon itself still has copies.  At least of the version I ordered.  I'm psyched, just for the old commercials (I like classic stuff) but of course for the performances.

 

lbs isn't really the correct abbreviation there, but whatever. Unless it is, I'm not British. But I'm fairly sure it's not. But it might be. But really it doesn't make sense. But it is the same word. But they mean totally different things. But it might be. But two different countries made up the word pound to mean something. But it makes a tiny bit of sense. No it doesn't.

I should get that. Hmm... Oh, and remember to use the Beatles Bible links for Amazon.

 

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22 February 2014
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DrBeatle said
Well, it's true. In the 60s all the way up into even the 90s, I'd say, the musicians and their dedicated fans really did believe that they were making art, that they had something to say, and that through their music they could change things. Since the late 90s, I'd say, music is no longer an artform (in general) so much as it's cheap entertainment as a commodity that means little to most people (mainly under 30, and I realize not EVERYONE under 30, but generally) apart from background music or music to party to.

While I agree with you about the apathy of the younger generation, you know I really can't blame them, at least in the usa.  Our congress has an approval rating of like 19% or less, but a re-election rate of 90%.  We keep expecting different results from the same thing - definition of insane a-hard-days-night-george-10  At least our generation is making some progress, in the LGBT and MJ issues.  Sorry to go off topic.

On topic: does anyone else think the guitar duel in WMGGW was one for the ages?  I've mentioned it twice and nobody replied...but maybe hard core B-maniacs don't care about guitar duels (j/k a-hard-days-night-george-10

 

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22 February 2014
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MattBusby said

DrBeatle said
Well, it's true. In the 60s all the way up into even the 90s, I'd say, the musicians and their dedicated fans really did believe that they were making art, that they had something to say, and that through their music they could change things. Since the late 90s, I'd say, music is no longer an artform (in general) so much as it's cheap entertainment as a commodity that means little to most people (mainly under 30, and I realize not EVERYONE under 30, but generally) apart from background music or music to party to.

While I agree with you about the apathy of the younger generation, you know I really can't blame them, at least in the usa.  Our congress has an approval rating of like 19% or less, but a re-election rate of 90%.  We keep expecting different results from the same thing - definition of insane a-hard-days-night-george-10  At least our generation is making some progress, in the LGBT and MJ issues.  Sorry to go off topic.

On topic: does anyone else think the guitar duel in WMGGW was one for the ages?  I've mentioned it twice and nobody replied...but maybe hard core B-maniacs don't care about guitar duels (j/k a-hard-days-night-george-10

 

Is it a duel? I'm pretty sure it's just Clapton. 

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You could have the pillocks in charge of the Coalition Government or Labour. Eric the half-a-bee could come up with better policies than those three parties. 

 

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22 February 2014
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At least yer health ministers don't look like this 

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(I'm sorry, I have tried to put up about 5 pictures and none of them have worked so a link it is)

The irony of having a fat lump dictating how a country's health system should be run my good, that and he is an idiot. One example of this man's intelligence: He deemed people who have cancer but it isn't terminal (yet) as 'not serious enough' to warrant a medical card. I'm sorry, what?!? So all the people who are dying will get all their treatment paid for and all the ones who are fighting and good live a long life if they beat their struggle have to fork out for some of their own treatment. I can't even...

 

Our health minister before him was worse believe it or not

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She now gets €130,000 pension A YEAR, for thoroughly f**king up a country. 

Yay for Ireland 

 

Anyhoo stay-on-topic

I've seen a couple of clips of the 50th anniversary show, it looks good but I won't watch it all unless UK channels broadcast it. I also got my order in for the Ed Sullivan shows (yay) I got the old 2003 disc because it was £1.20 compared to getting it for £6.30- yay savings 

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