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DrBeatle said

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Going totally on another tangent, but it saddened me how muted the crowd response was to Eric Idle's Rutles bit..I love the Rutles and the Beatles themselves did, too. A shame just about no one there in the crowd seemed to know what it was all about, or even who Eric Idle was. They probably thought "who is this weird Englishman and what's he going on about?"

Thanks for bringing that up, I thought that reaction was so odd! And I know the crowd was a mix, because I've since come across at least six people who were seatfillers (really wish I'd known it was that easy) and they were encouraging people of all ages to apply.

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Yeah, I'd imagine real fans like Grohl and Joe Walsh and Jeff Lynne and so on would've know what it was all about, but Katy Perry or Imagine Dragons or Maroon 5 probably had no clue. And I suspect most of the phony Hollywood celebrities in attendance had no clue either. Too bad! Shame you weren't able to get into that filming, parlance!

 

Tom Hanks would have had a clue- he got to do a Python skit at the Concert for George. (Called it one of the highlights of his career, too.) Outside of Hanks and the aforementioned, your guess is as good as mine as to who else in that audience knew who Eric Idle was. MAYBE Sean Penn, and that'd be about it.

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I know who Eric Idle is. I love Monty Python. So there's at least one young person. He was pretty hilarious too. 

I really hate the celebrities that aren't Beatles fans. Tell me LL Cool J knew what year Revolution was written in before that night. Or that Kate Beckinsale knew who the Maharishi was. Why not let people like us introduce? Find this forum (or one like it) and ask people if they'd like to do something like what LL Cool J, Beckinsale, or Penn did.

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I know who Eric Idle is. I love Monty Python. So there's at least one young person. He was pretty hilarious too. 

I really hate the celebrities that aren't Beatles fans. Tell me LL Cool J knew what year Revolution was written in before that night. Or that Kate Beckinsale knew who the Maharishi was. Why not let people like us introduce? Find this forum (or one like it) and ask people if they'd like to do something like what LL Cool J, Beckinsale, or Penn did.

Because we don't draw ratings.

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I know who Eric Idle is. I love Monty Python. So there's at least one young person. He was pretty hilarious too. 

I really hate the celebrities that aren't Beatles fans. Tell me LL Cool J knew what year Revolution was written in before that night. Or that Kate Beckinsale knew who the Maharishi was. Why not let people like us introduce? Find this forum (or one like it) and ask people if they'd like to do something like what LL Cool J, Beckinsale, or Penn did.

Because we don't draw ratings.

I think I could draw some ratings. ahdn_ringo_09

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I enjoyed Dave Grohl's performance of "Hey Bulldog", but I started crushing on him while watching him play the drums on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps".

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I enjoyed Dave Grohl's performance of "Hey Bulldog", but I started crushing on him while watching him play the drums on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps".

And he was crushing on the drums. It's all a circle.

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IveJustSeenAFaceo said

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I enjoyed Dave Grohl's performance of "Hey Bulldog", but I started crushing on him while watching him play the drums on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps".

And he was crushing on the drums. It's all a circle.

lol He was crushing them!

 

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Agree with MMM. It's ridiculous, just get over yourselves already.

It's just the gender. There's only a single letter that changes, surely that can't make you hate her version entirely?

  Like for example I think She Loves You would be fine with the lines "He loves you yeah, yeah, yeah" as well as with the replacement of "her" in "because you love her" could change to "because you love him" even.  But there's a limit, like someone (ivejust maybe) said, as to how you can change it and still preserve the essential rhythm and meter (is that the right word) of the song.  Even the him to her change might not be possible in some songs.

ps - i used to be called kermy but i finally found a beatles-related display name that wasn't taken - i'll put this in my next few posts so people know.

 

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'Him' and 'her', and 'he' and 'she' are all one sylablle words, so I don't really see how changing the gender affects the rhythm of the song. It just sounds a little different to the original.

Taking the Katy Perry example, if she'd sang ''why she had to go I don't know, she wouldn't say'' it would've sounded really strange (and, no doubt, people would have a moan about it). I doubt the poor girl could've won either way.

 

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Ahhh Girl said
I enjoyed Dave Grohl's performance of "Hey Bulldog", but I started crushing on him while watching him play the drums on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps".

I think WMGGW was by far the best of the covers.  I seriously think the guitar duel is as good as any I've ever seen, right up there with Clapton/Page or Clapton/Beck or any of the many good guitar duels through the years.

BTW I thought I saw someone mentioned they'd like to see Paul.  If it was here, eat your heart out.  I saw him 7/14/13 in Indianapolis, and it was tremendous.  When he opened the 2nd encore with I Saw Her Standing There I went nuts.  3 hours 5 minutes - easily half hour longer than any concert I've ever been to.  Speaking of I Saw Her Standing There, have you guys ever heard the version on Elton John's double live album "Here and There"?  John joins Elton on stage for 3 songs, the last one being "with an old strange fiance I used to have named Paul" I Saw Her Standing There...it's worth checking out...not an outstanding cover but every Beatlemaniac should give it a listen.  If you're interested PM me, I might be able to help you out with this a-hard-days-night-george-10 (someone tell me if that was out of line)

(used to be kermy but finally found a  beatles-related name that wasn't already used!  i'm finally starting to feel fairly confident around here :)

 

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Quite a few of us want to see Paul. We're just waiting for him to announce some more dates.

No reason why offering people to PM you is out of line. That's what they're there for :)

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Glad to hear you feel more comfortable being here Matt (aka Kermy), its certainly nice to have you here.

The Elton and John live performance of ISHST is freely available to hear on youtube and all three have been officially released over the years. I have no idea how but some very clever person was able to isolate (or should that be highlight?) John's vocal on the Lucy In The Sky performance, its quite something to hear.

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MattBusby said

  John joins Elton on stage for 3 songs, the last one being "with an old strange fiance I used to have named Paul" I Saw Her Standing There...it's worth checking out...not an outstanding cover but every Beatlemaniac should give it a listen.  If you're 

 

I think he says, 'estranged fiancé.' 

 

Paul would have laughed and felt pleased they'd picked, (and acknowledged they'd picked) one of his first songs. Nice from John….. the old softy.

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 I thought that reaction was so odd! And I know the crowd was a mix, because I've since come across at least six people who were seatfillers (really wish I'd known it was that easy) and they were encouraging people of all ages to apply. 

I was lucky to score a pair of tickets about three hours before the show began, and I can tell you that it seemed like 80% of the people there were industry types with varying degrees of devotion to the Beatles. Most of the "true" fans, it seemed, sat in the back or way off to the other side of where Paul and Ringo were sitting... and they all responded when Eric Idle came out. Just couldn't hear them. Paul and Ringo were on the left side of the audience, and I sat on the right, but I was only about 15 rows in back of them. I screamed really loudly when Eric introduced the clip about John, but on playback, I can only hear myself very faintly. 

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I was lucky to score a pair of tickets about three hours before the show began, and I can tell you that it seemed like 80% of the people there were industry types with varying degrees of devotion to the Beatles. Most of the "true" fans, it seemed, sat in the back or way off to the other side of where Paul and Ringo were sitting... and they all responded when Eric Idle came out. Just couldn't hear them. Paul and Ringo were on the left side of the audience, and I sat on the right, but I was only about 15 rows in back of them. I screamed really loudly when Eric introduced the clip about John, but on playback, I can only hear myself very faintly. 

Wow, you were there.  How awesome.  And you can actually isolate your yell!  The crowd noise was really muted I thought...you could hardly hear them singing with Hey Jude (it was Hey Jude wasn't it?).  You must tell about it in some more appropriate topic sometime :)

 

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I watched it and it was fine though I wish they had gotten acts that would have pleased Paul and Ringo a bit more and whom were a bit more influenced by The Beatles than the acts we saw. Stevie Wonder was great as always though, I'll say that. 

Best moment of the night is when Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics came out with his beard and sunglasses and Paul turned to Ringo and said, "It's Ringo!" and Ringo started laughing. You couldn't hear Paul but you could read his lips. Still, would have been nice if they could have had people like Smokey Robinson or Paul Simon, etc.

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Pics from Paul's site.

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MattBusby said

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I watched it and it was fine though I wish they had gotten acts that would have pleased Paul and Ringo a bit more and whom were a bit more influenced by The Beatles than the acts we saw. Stevie Wonder was great as always though, I'll say that. 

Best moment of the night is when Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics came out with his beard and sunglasses and Paul turned to Ringo and said, "It's Ringo!" and Ringo started laughing. You couldn't hear Paul but you could read his lips. Still, would have been nice if they could have had people like Smokey Robinson or Paul Simon, etc.

Ok this is my 3rd time at this, and the quoting looks like it's working at least.

I agree they could have picked better introducers (i know that's not a word lol).  Meryl Streep comes to mind.  If they needed current musicians to help the ratings, at least they could have picked ones that were more directly influenced by the Beatles.  Not saying practically everyone in music hasn't been influenced in some way by the Beatles, but say, Donovan, if he's still around, would have been good.

And I can't agree with you about Stevie Wonder.  I love the genius as much as everyone, but to me this was a poor interpretation.  I really couldn't pick a melody out of his singing at all, it was just like straining the high end of his low register and not quite making it.  Very surprising, and I can't fault him for trying something significantly different from the original (as opposed to Maroon 5, who appeared almost like a tribute band).

 

Actually, Stevie did the same We Can Work It Out he always does, which is his 1970 cover version.

Can I just say how ridiculously annoying and bad that backup singer is?

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Shoot I deleted my post, but it is quoted in its entirety by ivejust.

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Personally, Stevie's We Can Work It Out is by far my favourite cover of a Beatles song.

 

EDIT: Do you mean the backup singer in the original recording? It's probably Stevie himself.

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