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"You Never Give Me Your Money" by Peter Doggett
14 August 2011
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I'd find it easier to write a top 10 – I don't think I have an absolute favourite. So here goes, in no particular order.

  • Revolution In The Head by Ian MacDonald
  • Anthology by The Beatles
  • The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions by Mark Lewisohn
  • Love Me Do by Michael Braun
  • You Never Give Me Your Money by Peter Doggett
  • All We Are Saying by David Sheff
  • Lennon Remembers by Jann S Wenner
  • Recording The Beatles by Kevin Ryan and Brian Kehew
  • Beatles Gear by Andy Babiuk
  • The Unreleased Beatles by Richie Unterberger
I think that's it, anyway. There are a few bubbling under that are really good, but I'd be here all day.

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14 August 2011
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I just read You Never Give Me Your Money for the second time – it is even better the second time. If you've read it, read it again – you'll retain much more.

It's number one Beatle book for me – but I have read Revolution in the Head yet.

"She looks more like him than I do."
1 September 2011
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As I may or may not have mentioned, I finished this book about, oh, 3 weeks ago. I, oh, how do you put this, loved it and hated it for the same reason. The boys come out looking like ill-prepared overambitious asses (Pardon the language). I don't like thinking of the boys that way, but then again, it unearths so many details. I remember Joe saying that Paul and George came out worse – I think it was Ringo and Paul. It's a fascinating book – I highly recommend

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
1 September 2011
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Just started it – so far so good.

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15 September 2011
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It was a good read, very well written. But to me, nothing very surprising was revealed. Some of the events themselves I did not know about, but it was absolutely no surprise they happened.

Toward the end, I felt it got a bit "gossipy". It was still a good read, but I'm glad I did not pay full price for it. I may take robert's advice from upthread and read it again some time – I just don't see it happening soon.

 

*insert Allen Klein smiley here*

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15 September 2011
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Zig, i's not the massive details that make the book for me. It's the sheer volume of info he gets that draws me to the book. Well, it is what it is. I still love it.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
15 September 2011
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I never said I did not like it – I just did not love it and don't think it's the best Beatles book I've read to date. It just did not meet my expectations. That does not make it a bad book – it's just my opinion.

I'm glad you liked it. That's cool.stuart-sutcliffe

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15 September 2011
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I need to reread this book.

Well we all shine on like the moon, the stars, and the sun.
16 September 2011
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Ive ordered this book from a library and ordering another copy from another library and between the 2 will hopefully get thru it without being left in the dark. Im not paying full price for it.

Considering all the positive comments should be interesting.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
16 September 2011
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Looks like I know what book to buy next.

It's been lying around in the bookstore. 

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29 September 2011
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I really want to read this book.. But bookstores here are lousy! I asked the store to order to book last week and still waiting for them to call and tell me if they even found it!

 

I think I should get it through Amazon or eBay..

 

Something was mentioned in this thread I guess about George calling Paul Krishna, or something.. Can't remember exactly but I remember this quote made me laugh so much, and want to read this book even more.. I love you George a-hard-days-night-george-5

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29 September 2011
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Doggett's just brought out a book about Bowie in the 70s. That's shot to the top of my Christmas list.

And I neeeeeeeeed her all the time
29 September 2011
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The book just came into the local library today. Hopefully should be a good read when its gotten around to. Have been reading details of the 1971 court battle of Paul v John, George, Ringo and Apple which that was really interesting. Especially the report of John, George and Ringo going around to Pauls home in Cavendish after the result had been read out that Paul had won. Supposedly John climbed the gates and threw 2 bricks thru Pauls windows.a-hard-days-night-john-6

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
29 September 2011
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Oh god, if he did that…I wouldn't be surprised, just kind of…disappointed…I hope he didn't. I can't really think Ringo would let him do that, although you never really know.

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30 September 2011
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Well, reading this book trashes any romantic idea you can have about the Beatles. That's why I want to read it. brian-epstein

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30 September 2011
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The Walrus – thanks for the info on the Bowie book. It's gone straight on my Amazon wishlist.

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30 September 2011
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The David Bowie book won't be available in the U.S. until next summer… a-hard-days-night-ringo-7a-hard-days-night-ringo-13paul-mccartney

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30 January 2012
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robert said:

I just read You Never Give Me Your Money for the second time – it is even better the second time. If you've read it, read it again – you'll retain much more.

It's number one Beatle book for me – but I have read Revolution in the Head yet.

I don't know why it is better the second time, but you are absolutely correct. I just finished my second reading of it last night. As I told "Into the Sky with Diamonds" this morning, I found it light years better the second time around. I am very glad you suggested it, robert – thanks.

 

PennyLane said:

I need to reread this book.

Yes you do!a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

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21 August 2012
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Finally got hold of this book, thanks to my new library card!

Verdict: Well, I'm only nearly halfway done, but I'm glad I didn't pay money for it. Because I only started it last night, and I wouldn't wanna pay big money for a book I'm gonna finish in about two days! Needless to say, that first half has been really enjoyable and unputdownable. Fascinating to read the full ins & outs of the various financial entanglements; really, I was practically laughing at how convoluted the whole thing got. Also the absurdity of Allen Klein finally getting his hooks into the band at the precise moment they're self-destructing – remininscent of those stories of bank robbers with explosives who manage to destroy all the money along with the safe.

Can't wait to read further…

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27 August 2012
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Hi all,

I am translating from English into Italian Nick Hornby's review of Doggett's book.

I am at a loss with two adjcetives, as referred to John and George.

Here's the quote.

(…) John and then Yoko, Paul, George and Ringo spent most of the 70s and 80s suing – suing each other, suing management companies, suing record companies, suing computer companies with the temerity to name themselves after a piece of fruit that the Beatles had, inexplicably, been allowed to claim for themselves. This book gives the impression that the surviving Beatles are extremely likely to sue me for saying that they spent a lot of time suing.  It had to be done, I suppose, a lot of it, and who is to say that any of us would have acted any differently? It’s not like all four constituent parts of the band were identical. That was one of the reasons the Beatles worked, because if you couldn’t identify with John, you’d be able to identify with Paul. Which Beatle were you? Or, more pertinently, which Beatle would you have sued like?  Bitter John? Chippy Paul? Smouldering George? Or drunk Ringo?  (Hey, good luck, Believer fact-checkers!)

 

Bitter like "resentful"?

Smouldering like…?  Does it have to do with his looks (brooding, ardent, hot) or with his attitude (someone who's bottling something up)?

Thank you all,

Diana

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