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You Never Give Me Your Money by Peter Doggett
3 February 2010

Some surprise anyone didn't mention this book! (Or didn't I look in the right places?) Considering the fact that (I think) most people are from English-speaking countries, and that it takes a while for English books to reach Holland, and was surprised this very new book (October 2009, I think?) wasn't discussed. Not that I want to, I just wanted to mention its existence. Only read it once, just before Christmas. In the near future, I'm willing to review it, but just want to read it one more time before doing so.

3 February 2010
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It was mentioned before, but before we had a books section in the forum. It's here:

Unfortunately I can't move threads around; otherwise I'd bring it over here or combine the threads into one. Anyway, do let us know what you think of the book - I've heard good things about it.

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3 February 2010

Well, certainly it's a big read, in every aspect. It's thoroughly researched, that's for sure. But to me, essentially, it was a very gripping tale of all the character flaws all humans might have - demonstrated by people who were consired heroes and pioneers, the Beatles. It just shows that everybody's human, and to me, that's one valuable lesson for sure. Less metapsychically, the book provided me with a lot of information about a period in the Beatles history I heard a lot about, but never ventured into: the last two and a half years of their coorperation as the Beatles. 

Edit: Of course, there's way more to the book. It deals with every legal, financial, and creative aspect of the Beatles after they stopped being Beatles. At first, I didn't think that would make a great subject, but funny enough it does. It just shows how defenseless real art is. When reading this book, I remembered some Dutch phrase that's on top of a building in Rotterdam, near my hometown: "Alles van waarde is weerloos," which roughly translates to: "Everything of value is defenseless" - it just shows that commerce is not easily compatible with talent and art. 

4 February 2010
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14 October 2009

I made reference to this late last year as I'd not long finished it.  I thought it was good as Doggett gave an honest view that didn't smack of "kiss ass" to the Beatles. It goes into a lot of detail regarding the finances and the almighty calamity that Apple was, but I found it very interesting.

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16 July 2010
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19 April 2010

Best book on the post-Beatles years I've ever read. This is a must read as it combines their personal lives, their interpersonal relationships with each other, and their finances all into one compelling story.


Get it.

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12 January 2015
Inside the beat
Hollywood Bowl
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8 January 2015

Yeah it's a harrowing read, I found it diffcult to keep going because the catalogue of disaster was exhausting. And this is just the best compiled overview: the story of My Sweet Lord alone would be enough (the lawsuit that took 30 years, I think it set some kind of record.).

25 March 2015
Sun King
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7 August 2014

I finished reading this the other day, great book. 

But I must say, I thought George and John came across as a bit dickish the book. I still love them, I can't separate them and Paul as I love all three equally, but I thought they acted really unfairly and rudely towards Paul. Not just on business stuff, but they seemed to like hurting him personally.  

25 March 2015
A Park in the Dark
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5 February 2010

Just finished it a few days ago, and I'm about to start on a second read-through. I echo the sentiment posted above: this is easily the best book out there on the post-Beatles era, running from 1967/68 right up to 2009. Yeah, it's a bit of a depressing book to read, but that's the nature of the story: the band breaks up in the end, and they never get back together.

Quick question for anyone who knows more about Liverpudlian ways than I do: recounting how Derek Taylor talked George Harrison into rejoining the band after he'd left in 1969, Doggett says

Taylor's reward was a postcard in McCartney's handwriting, with the stamp carefully torn in half and the simple Northern injunction, 'Up yer.'

What does "up yer" mean? It sounds like the start of an insult, y'know, "up yer arse" or something, but that doesn't seem to fit the context. It sounds more like Paul was saying something akin to "good on yer," but I just can't imagine what "up yer" is shorthand for in this context.

Not a bit like Cagney.
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