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The Love You Make by Peter Brown and Steven Gaines
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1 March 2011
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It was the first Beatles bio I ever read, back in '84. Like Mr. Sun King says, nothing earth-shattering that I can recall.

I think this book doesn't have the best reputation, but I'm not really sure why.  

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Possibly because Paul Hated it. Take a look at this. (About Peter Brown)

LINDA: (pauses) "He was a friend. He was the one who introduced Paul and me… A man I trusted. When I was going to the hospital to have Stella, I handed him my baby, Mary, to hold. I wouldn't trust my baby to anyone but a friend. Now it's like he doesn't exist. And his book… well, it doesn't matter what he wrote, because he betrayed a trust. We decided not to read it, but we heard things. We put the copy he sent us in the fire and I photographed it as it burned, page by page. As to what he wrote about Paul or about John's experiences, ask Paul himself. He's coming back."

 

(Paul rejoins the conversation)

PLAYBOY: "We were talking about what Peter Brown wrote in his book."

PAUL: "Yeah, he told us he was going to write about the music of the Sixties, not a book about the Beatles. I took him into my house, something we don't do; we had lunch, showed him the kids, showed him around our village. I actually thought he was a friend. so to find out that he isn't is no big deal. But I mean, I hear he said John Lennon had a gay thing with Brian Epstein when they went to Spain together once. That's been rumored for years. I mean, was he in the room with them? It's probably just wishful thinking on his part. But I'll tell you what's naughty about it– that John's not here to answer it, and neither is Brian. All that stuff that's written about us, I just hope that people who've sort of heard of our music, vaguely, know what the Beatles, or the ex-Beatles, were… and it wasn't what's been written. I mean, John's time and effort were, in the main, spent on pretty honorable stuff. As for the other side, well, nobody's perfect, nobody's Jesus. And look what they did to him."

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

3 March 2011
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Joe said:

Same year as Shotton's book then. Not sure which came first. But I presume the Epstein/Lennon tales were well known anyway - they were all over Liverpool back in 1963.


True, True. But nobody of any authority could validate the claim.

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Ive always thought that the claims in this book were overall fiction but found an interview where in 1988 George Martin mentions this book. During discussing (and lambasting) The Lives Of John Lennon by Albert Goldman, George says "[Peter] Brown did his own hatchett job, which was very nasty. He didnt actually write any lies, but he presented all the steamy bits as if there was nothing else".

Which suggests whatever is in The Love You Make is true.

I havent read it yet but plan to after finally finishing Jonathan Gould's Cant Buy Me Love.

Any thoughts?

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I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of this book, although I'm not quite as negative about it as I was when I first bought it back in the early 80's.   At that time, I was tremendously disappointed, because I expected a good insider look at what The Beatles were like and how it felt to be in the middle of Beatlemania (after all, Brown is the only one of that crowd mentioned by name in a Beatles song).   Instead, it was as much gossip as it was actual observation -- and Brown seemed to sneer at everyone through it all, which seemed surprising since he considered himself a friend of The Beatles & their team.   For example, when he writes about Neil Aspinall, he calls his attempts to put together a film documentary of the band "pathetic" -- of course we all saw the results of Aspinall's "pathetic" efforts in 1995's BEATLES ANTHOLOGY.   Brown was also the first to "break the news" that George had an affair with Ringo's first wife, Maureen... but again, he does it in a gossipy way ("neither Patty or Maureen will confirm this story, but they don't deny it either"), and he also alleges, without proof, that Paul would come into the studio after Ringo went home and re-drum all his parts ("it was a poorly kept secret", writes Brown).   Of course, Brown was never part of the Beatles' recording circle, so his information wouldn't be that much better than yours or mine.   And he writes how George, visiting Haight-Ashbury in 1967, had to flee the crowd because they wanted him to play guitar and he was too stoned (there are photos of that visit showing him strumming away with a smile on his face).

Still, this book has a lot of first-hand information about a guy who really did seem to be "pathetic" -- Brian Epstein, as well as the goings-on at Apple... how accurate it is, you never know, but it's interesting reading, and like I say, I'm a bit less negative about the book as a whole than I was when it was new.   

One final note to consider:  in Tony Barrow's recent book  "John, Paul, George, Ringo... and me", Peter Brown isn't mentioned once by name -- although, when discussing Epstein's death, Barrow does darkly write "One man who liked to be known as one of Epstein's closest friends.. pulled out a pile of expensively handmade silk shirts.. monogrammed BE.  He asked without a trace of emotion, let alone grief: `do you think I'll be able to unpick these initials?' "   I always wondered who Barrow was writing about -- of course, it would be gossipy of me to suggest it might be Peter Brown, wouldn't it?

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