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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn
3 March 2013
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Thanks. Good to see both. I've amended the title of this thread accordingly (partly to soak up some Google searches, but mainly for accuracy).

So excited about this book. Really can't wait to get a copy of Vol 1. Although I wonder who widespread these sorts of negative views are. I guess some people won't see the point of another Beatles biog, but as ML himself says, The Beatles' story has been told often, but rarely told well.

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Very welcome. I'm excited too (though not so excited about the price… I'm sure I'll get used 10 years later like I did with the Anthology).a-hard-days-night-george-10

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I'm going to need so save up for the deluxe…or ask for it as my only combined Christmas/birthday present in 2014!

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YAHOOOOO this is exciting.

Hopefully I'll be able to read it within 15 years.

Why do I imagine a book the size of my huge ass tv?

 

 

2 April 2013
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More at WogBlog (along with a never-before seen photo). The official book site seems to be down at the moment.

The book we're all looking forward to read, the new definitive Beatles biography by Mark Lewisohn is due out with volume one, "Tune in" in October. The triology goes under the collective name of "All these years". Volume one is available to preorder from Amazon with a stipulated publication date of October 10. However, if you really want to get into the story in great detail you may want to hold out until November 13th, when the expanded edition is expected.

The regular edition will be big (800 pages), the expanded edition will be bigger. There'll be more to read. 1856 pages, if Google Books is anything to go by. And of course, the price is also expanded.

At the moment, Amazon has a price tag of £30 for the regular edition and a whopping £120 for the expanded one. Details about the differences are expected soon from the publisher Little, Brown.
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Word from the publisher:
Everyone knows the Beatles’ story – right? Wrong. Their enduring fame and influence has made them the subject of many books, but this biography is the true ultimate: a riveting read, unbiased, independent, authoritative, accurate, written by the world’s leading authority. A whole new take on the most extraordinary of subjects, and surely the lasting word. Delete what you’ve read or know and start afresh

Tune In is the first book in a genre-defining three-volume project. It takes the Beatles from before their beginning up to the final night of 1962, when they know success is theirs to grasp but they have no clue they’re on the cusp of a whole new kind of celebrity.

This is the lesser-known Beatles story, the pre-fame years, the Liverpool and Hamburg years – and in many respects the most absorbing, extraordinary and incredible period of them all. Here is the full colour story of their family backgrounds, childhoods, and their infatuation with a new and much misunderstood music bursting out of America: rock and roll. Everything comes together in these years and in this one volume: the Beatles’ talent, charisma, looks, sex appeal, personalities, honesty, attitude – and the Lennon-McCartney partnership.

Told with panache, wit and the alluring, authoritative style of a master craftsman, this is one of the most eagerly awaited books for years.

Written from an immense wealth of primary and insider resources, many never heard or seen before, including letters, contracts, photos, recordings and hundreds of new and archive interviews. Researched around the world from public libraries to deep private archives.

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‘Of all the chroniclers who have studied the lives of John, Paul, George and Ringo, Mark Lewisohn stands supreme. His dedication in getting all the true facts, coupled with a style of writing that is most readable, leaves him with no rival. Time and again he has proven that he knows far more about what we did than any of us. So many other books have been written about the lives of the Beatles that are less than truthful and a great deal of misinformed rubbish has been avidly devoured. We are fortunate to have Mark’s scholarship’

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I'm still trying to hold out and save up for the expanded edition. Am I the only one, though, who thinks the title "All These Years" kind of…sucks? It doesn't really roll off the tongue well or grab you when you hear it. Maybe I'm just being a bit nitpicky but I think it sounds a bit lame (the title, not the book!)

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DrBeatle said
I'm still trying to hold out and save up for the expanded edition. Am I the only one, though, who thinks the title "All These Years" kind of…sucks? It doesn't really roll off the tongue well or grab you when you hear it. Maybe I'm just being a big nitpicky but I think it sounds a bit lame (the title, not the book!)

And Tune In is a pretty underwhelming title for the first book.

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I too am aiming for the "2nd mortgage" version. The title is a bit… Seems like an awkward play on George's All Those Years Ago. Maybe that would have made a better overall title.

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2 April 2013
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^agree with you both. I mean, what does "All These Years" even mean? What does it refer to? Obviously, it makes sense grammatically, but what significance does it hold for the Beatles' story? Hell, as you said above, mja6758, "All Those Years Ago" is more appropriate, and as we all know that was *solo* George (ie post-Beatles). Same with "Tune In." Tune in to what? Is it a BBC reference?

 

Again, I expect the books to be excellent…it is Mark Lewisohn, after all. But the titles are just…more than a wee bit lame!a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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The Tune In title, isn't that a reference to Timothy Leary's "Turn on, tune in, drop out…"? Didn't I read somewhere that Volume 2 is Turn On (The Drug Years), and Volume 3 Drop Out (The Break-Up)? May be imagining that.

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mja6758 said
The Tune In title, isn't that a reference to Timothy Leary's "Turn on, tune in, drop out…"? Didn't I read somewhere that Volume 2 is Turn On (The Drug Years), and Volume 3 Drop Out (The Break-Up)? May be imagining that.

That could make sense, although again it seems a bit of a strange choice since A) book 1 only goes up to the beginning of Beatlemania in 1963 (or so I've read), and B) The Beatles only had a few years of overt/obvious acid use and impact on their music/fashion ('66-'67)…it'd be more appropriate if they were known as a full-blown "Acid Band" but it was only a small phase of their career.

I'm definitely not saying you're wrong, you may very well be right. Just saying that, if so, it seems like a really weird choice of titles.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Though it could also be read – Tune In (the beginnings to just before the world went mad), Turn On (the world falls in love with four lads from Liverpool), Drop Out (Epstein's death and the disintegration of the band).

I know the first takes us to the end of '62, and Lewisohn has said the second will end in either '66 or '67, with the third going into the early '70s. So, as a phrase, it does kind of work as a way of breaking it up. I was probably wrong in my attaching Turn On to Drugs, though remember there was a progression through various drugs over those years.

I'm sure I read that suggestion of Volume titles somewhere though, but like so much of the mythology about these books, the details may change as we go along. We'll only know when the long wait for Volume 2 is over. By which time I expect to be drawing my pension!

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I've read the same three titles (Tune In, Turn On, Drop Out) but cant remember where either. Im not bothered about the title, only about the information contained.

I have more confidence seeing volume 3 before i die than i do with either Let it Be on dvd or Paul's reissues getting even 1/3 of the way thru the proposed online schedule of releases. I wonder what the odds would be on what would be first alongside things like Elvis turning up alive and well, living as a monk in Newcastlle, Aliens arriving on Earth, settling in, and claiming Job Seekers Allowance in the UK, and the world suddenly turning in the opposite direction and time begins going backwards. Personally i'd put Let It Be last in the list of 6.

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meanmistermustard said
I've read the same three titles (Tune In, Turn On, Drop Out) but cant remember where either.

If that's really what they are, that's pretty brilliant.

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If those are the titles that's okay with me. They're not too bad.

Then again, I don't really care about the titles. JUST GIMME THE FRIGGIN BOOK KTHXBAI.

8 April 2013
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DrBeatle said
^agree with you both. I mean, what does "All These Years" even mean? What does it refer to? Obviously, it makes sense grammatically, but what significance does it hold for the Beatles' story? Hell, as you said above, mja6758, "All Those Years Ago" is more appropriate, and as we all know that was *solo* George (ie post-Beatles). Same with "Tune In." Tune in to what? Is it a BBC reference?

All These Years is a quote from Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ("The act you've known for…"). But if it needs explaining to Beatles fans it probably isn't a great choice.

I think Tune In is probably a reference to Leary's quote, but we'll have to wait and see when Part II is announced. I agree they're not brilliant sub/titles.

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€140 blue-meanie No way in hell is Mam going to get me that, but it seems to be the book. God damn it!!! What about all of us young, broke fans.

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I'll probably ask for it for Christmas.

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I'll just wait til someone has read it and tells me it's worth it. If it isn't, then I won't buy it but will borrow it from the library. For some reason I've got a feeling (a feeling deep inside ohyeah) that the library won't have it though.

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Joe said

DrBeatle said
^agree with you both. I mean, what does "All These Years" even mean? What does it refer to? Obviously, it makes sense grammatically, but what significance does it hold for the Beatles' story? Hell, as you said above, mja6758, "All Those Years Ago" is more appropriate, and as we all know that was *solo* George (ie post-Beatles). Same with "Tune In." Tune in to what? Is it a BBC reference?

All These Years is a quote from Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ("The act you've known for…"). But if it needs explaining to Beatles fans it probably isn't a great choice.

I think Tune In is probably a reference to Leary's quote, but we'll have to wait and see when Part II is announced. I agree they're not brilliant sub/titles.

Of course! But, it's a bit obscure, don't you think? It's not instantly obvious, at least it wasn't to me *shrug*

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