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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn
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meanmistermustard said

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Mine came today!  Holy crap is it ever heavy.  

Glad to hear it – you are going to love it!

I told a co-worker it is 4 pounds of pure joy. It said so on the shipping label. Well…not the pure joy part.

a-hard-days-night-john-6a-hard-days-night-paul-8a-hard-days-night-george-9ahdn_ringo_09

I read as much as I could on my break.  SO GOOD.  a-hard-days-night-paul-7

Putting Paul there at the end of your post makes me wonder if you went straight to the Paul parts, LHL.

Why would I do something like that?  I don't even LIKE Paul McCartney that much…………  a-hard-days-night-paul-4ahdn_paul_02

Uh-oh. I just envisioned edited versions of the book that only cover one Beatle.

Please don't give Beatle related book publishers that idea. Can't do with having to buy four different editions where you have to put them all together yourself to understand any of it.

I won't pass this idea outside this thread. If none of them read it here, hopefully they won't think it up on their own.

 

7 November 2013
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Lewisohn posted at his FB that the book debuted on the NY Times bestseller list at #25.

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7 November 2013
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Seems a bit low…or is it just me?

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7 November 2013
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Actually, I thought that was good, considering how specific the subject is (Beatles, but only up until 1962), and it's not a salacious tell-all.

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Plus there are folks who are bypassing it for the deluxe which will hit sales.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
7 November 2013
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True, good points both of you. I take back what I said :oops:

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parlance said
Actually, I thought that was good, considering how specific the subject is (Beatles, but only up until 1962), and it's not a salacious tell-all.

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Seems ok to me – it should be enough to make sure the publishers stick with it to the next volumes.

I don't think too many people will be buying deluxe though.

 

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trcanberra said

parlance said
Actually, I thought that was good, considering how specific the subject is (Beatles, but only up until 1962), and it's not a salacious tell-all.

parlance

Seems ok to me – it should be enough to make sure the publishers stick with it to the next volumes.

I don't think too many people will be buying deluxe though.

 

You know, having read the standard version already, I'm surprised to say this but I'm content. I know (well, I'm PRETTY SURE I know) that I'm getting the deluxe as a gift for Christmas (I was told not to buy it so…) but if I wasn't, I could wait for it to come down in price because I enjoyed the hell out of the standard edition.

That being said, I guarantee that when/if I get the deluxe, I'll start reading it and wonder how my life ever had any meaning without it! :P :lol:

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DrBeatle said

trcanberra said

parlance said
Actually, I thought that was good, considering how specific the subject is (Beatles, but only up until 1962), and it's not a salacious tell-all.

parlance

Seems ok to me – it should be enough to make sure the publishers stick with it to the next volumes.

I don't think too many people will be buying deluxe though.

You know, having read the standard version already, I'm surprised to say this but I'm content. I know (well, I'm PRETTY SURE I know) that I'm getting the deluxe as a gift for Christmas (I was told not to buy it so…) but if I wasn't, I could wait for it to come down in price because I enjoyed the hell out of the standard edition.

That being said, I guarantee that when/if I get the deluxe, I'll start reading it and wonder how my life ever had any meaning without it! :P :lol:

The question will be how you think once you've had the chance to read the deluxe. That's where the judgement will come.

I think it making 25 in the NY Times list was impressive. Though, as fans, we find it hard to recognise, we are talking about what is, essentially, an academic historical biography – alongside tomes about Churchill, Stalin, Henry VIII, Lincoln, Washington, et al. How often does that type of book make the bestsellers list?

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I think it's quite impressive. As said above, this is for a supposedly small market – Beatles fans. This isn't a book on 60s music in general. It's just about one band. Four guys. That's it. And there's a lot of fans that haven't bought the stnd edition, too. Add the sales up of both versions and I bet it's even higher up the list.

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8 November 2013
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Yeah, and it goes quite deep. Not everyone will be interested in the Beatles in the first place, but casual fans probably won't go for this book. It's very impressive, I think.

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Most casual fans won't be that interested in the early pre-'63 period, their interest will be sparked more than likely by the Rubber Soul era onwards, a handful from the Please Please Me LP but not many.

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Have to disagree, for the American audience, the coverage of what really happened in late-'63, early-'64, and their arrival in America will be of massive interest. Remember, their first Ed Sullivan is considered one of America's pivotal cultural moments.

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Well i was thinking of those who listen from Rubber Soul onwards and largely ignore the earlier material and period but fair enough. I hear what you are saying and agree that many American's will be interested before that time.

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I don't have my standard edition with me to compare the texts, and it's going to take me a while to work through these volumes properly, but it's safe to say I'm a bit pleased right now a-hard-days-night-john-6

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Amazon.co.uk has dispatched my copy via DHL Global Mail. My expected delivery date is Dec. 3. Anticipation.

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I posted some early thoughts on the Steve Hoffman forum. To save me going over the same ground, here's a cut-and-paste. I don't think these are spoilers as I've barely opened the books…

I haven't got my standard edition to hand (I'm at work, hence the dodgy blue carpet), so can't compare the two right now. I'm going to take my time reading the deluxe edition anyway, so I'm not about to do a load of A/B comparisons. I've had a quick look at the photos and there don't seem to be loads more, just a handful of extra ones.

There are three photo sections in book one, and two in book two. The first section in vol1 contains all the childhood pics. Then there's a gap of about 400 pages until the next photo section (Quarrymen, Casbah, Hurricanes, July-December 1960 in the text), and the third (Hamburg pics) follows about 150 pages later (August 1960). I'm saying this because, unlike in the standard edition, the sections aren't evenly spread throughout the book – they tie in more closely with the text.

In book two, section one (which appears in April 62) contains more live Cavern/Hamburg/Liverpool pics, plus some of Ringo, Klaus, Astrid and Jurgen. Section two (which is at the October 62 section in the text) mops up a lot of the remainders, and covers various stages (eg Astrid's pics of John and George in Stuart's attic, the shot of the Beatles about to fly to EMI for the first time, the Preludin pic).

The box is smaller than I'd expected. I thought it'd be something grander, a bit like Recording The Beatles (though a different shape), but it's actually quite compact. Each book is probably the same size as one of the standard editions, though maybe a bit thinner, and there's no extra space in the box.

Book one: pages 1-825, text ends p747, notes till end.
Book two: 829-1698, text ends at 1530, notes 1533-1616, then an index for both volumes.

No idea on weight. I presume that's in the product listing on Amazon. The book covers are matt and textured. The ribbon bookmarks are as you'd expect (unless you have *really* high hopes). Paper quality is good, but it's not like you'd leaf through it and be astounded. They're just books. The outer box lifts off the base unit, rather than pulling the contents out horizontally.

Final thought (as I'm supposed to be working, and actually have quite a busy day!), the bottom of the box contains credits for design/art direction, type design, and then "Hand drawn type: Mark Lewisohn". I don't think that means we can blame him for the awful lettering on the cover, but I'm not yet sure what it refers to. The standard version might have said the same.

UPDATE: the hand drawn type refers to "All These Years".

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Mark posted this as part of a longer message at his FB:

For those who ask 'Is the extended edition coming out in America?' the answer is still unclear. The decision is not mine: it's for the US publisher of TUNE IN to make. Crown Archetype are in New York – if you want to press them to decide Yes, feel free to go ahead. In the meantime, people worldwide are buying it from amazon.co.uk, and perhaps there'll be other sources as well.

For those who ask about it coming out anywhere else, there's no news. For those who want an audio version of the ESE, sorry, there isn't one. Maybe one day, but there are no plans at present.

This is the contact page for Crown Archetype, btw.

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BTW, Lewisohn should have credited you for your photo, Joe. Not cool.

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Ahhh Girl said
Amazon.co.uk has dispatched my copy via DHL Global Mail. My expected delivery date is Dec. 3. Anticipation.

Mine has been dispatched as well. Initially the delivery estimate was November 20 to 22. Now it says this Friday?!?!

I hope that is true. Thanks for sharing the pics Joe, it looks awesome.

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