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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn
9 October 2013
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I admit I forgot the book was coming out today since I'm waiting for Nov. 14 as well.

And just a reminder that Lewisohn's appearances in the UK begin today.

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9 October 2013
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It comes out today!? I had no idea, I thought it was in a week or two after Pauls album and folks were talking about it in the future tense. That's what you get for avoiding spoilers.

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9 October 2013
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Oh, wait, sorry, it comes out Oct. 29 (at least in the US). When the morning DJs on one of my favorite stations started ranting about it, I got confused.

The UK appearances definitely started today, though. :-P

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9 October 2013
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It actually comes out tomorrow in the UK. I wonder what Mark thinks about Waterstones putting it on the shelves a few days early. I remember that he was adamant that he didn't want extracts from the book leaked in advance ("It's a book, let's read the book") because he didn't want pieces of the text to be read without the context. I guess Little, Brown must have really pushed hard to get him to change his mind.

I'm going to try and hold out for the deluxe. The only thing is, it sounds like something you definitely would want to keep in pristine condition - and not something you can read on the bus home. 

On another point, I wonder how poor old Pete Best is feeling at the moment. It sounds as though he hardly spoke during his whole time with them! And to find out that they made an approach to Ringo about joining soon after arriving in Hamburg for the first time. I hope journalists are kind when they interview him in the years to come ... alas, they are bound to bring all this up. 

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9 October 2013
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^ sounds like it would need its own ticket if you had it on the bus with you.

10 October 2013
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Ticket to read

I think that I'm gonna gloat
I think it's today, yeah!
The book Mark Lewisohn wrote
Is published today, yeah!
I've got a ticket to read
I've got a ticket to re-ea-ead
I've got a ticket to read
And life's OK!

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trcanberra said
^ sounds like it would need its own ticket if you had it on the bus with you.

Looking at the size of it, I think you're right!

Somebody spoke and I went into a dream

10 October 2013
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Joe said
Ticket to read

I think that I'm gonna gloat
I think it's today, yeah!
The book Mark Lewisohn wrote
Is published today, yeah!
I've got a ticket to read
I've got a ticket to re-ea-ead
I've got a ticket to read
And life's OK!

I think you've got a parallel career ahead of you Joe!

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10 October 2013
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Tune In: The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn (Oct 29, 2013)

Well, this version had made it to #1 in at least 1 category on Amazon.

10 October 2013
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Someone has stated on an Amazon review for the book that Mark "may even be doing a 4th volume (up to John's death)".

Can this be right? Has anyone else heard this?

11 October 2013
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It happened. A friend turned up this evening with a copy of Tune In for me. They'd seen it in Tesco's for £15 and knew I'm having trouble getting out and about at the moment due to a messed-up leg. So now I have a copy of the book. I'm umming and ahhing about whether I'm going to read it or wait for the Deluxe, but I will probably succumb. Books like this always get read a couple of times quite closely together, so that I can get those bits I missed first time around.

I can't just stare at it for 30-odd days. All that temptation...

Won't be saying anything about the contents when I do succumb however. I'll save that for the "spoiler thread".

However, in response to the question about a fourth volume, having had a brief flick-through, to get a better idea of how Lewisohn had constructed the story, I noticed in the back section (notes, picture credits, index, etc.) there is an appeal for information, witnesses, etc. I should imagine this has request been made elsewhere so will quote a pertinent line, "If you were a first-hand witness to any part of the Beatles years - up to, say, 1980..."

I have never seen any comment from Lewisohn that would indicate a fourth volume, he has always spoken of three. However, he has indicated that the third will go beyond their split, at least into the early 1970s. It could be that that request for information up to 1980 has led to some speculation that he is, maybe, considering a "What happens after you've been a Beatle?" volume.

Myself, I doubt it... until Lewisohn starts talking about he how would be loth to finish the story without telling the story of their relationships afterwards...

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I just yielded about an hour ago - I picked it up for A$35 at the local bookshop - which is a pretty good price and nicely satisfied my impulsive buying habits.

It looks like the UK version - but has as many pages as I need in a book - it's quite the monster in size.  I'm not too worried about the relative lack of photos as I have a couple of good books of those.  They had already sold a couple of copies this morning.

And yes, my Beatley book collection has now hit double figures :)

11 October 2013
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You have my condolences. Doing a quick check on the exchange rate, my friend paid A$25.35 for the copy he bought me. So, to me, that seems quite expensive.

I know what you mean about size! I am so glad the "Deluxe" is split into two books!

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11 October 2013
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mja6758 said
You have my condolences. Doing a quick check on the exchange rate, my friend paid A$25.35 for the copy he bought me. So, to me, that seems quite expensive.

I know what you mean about size! I am so glad the "Deluxe" is split into two books!

Still pretty happy with the price, the recommended retail down here is around A$45-50.  Nice price from your friend, think that is around half of the cover price?

 

11 October 2013
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Father McCartney said
"The main difference between the regular UK edition and the USA edition is said to be that the USA edition will have the references pages added, in the UK, these will only be printed in the deluxe edition."

I have a few non-fiction books without indices, and do find it impairs my enjoyment of them substantially. Hopefully, it looks like we're safe with this one.

Not sure what reference pages they mean?  Anyone able to fill me in - ta (and apologies if I missed it elsewhere in this thread).

[EDIT] and if it is the "Notes" pages, they ARE in the UK edition.

[EDIT 2] Amazon has the US edition at 944 pages, the UK one I have has 946 - so maybe the two standard editions are the same after all?

 

11 October 2013
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Assuming the copy you have is the same as the UK version, making the last page number, on the last page of the index, 946, then - assuming the "Deluxe" doesn't totally surprise - it refers to the Notes that begin on page 841. As you read the main text, you will notice - in upper case - numbers occasionally appears, these refer to sources for/reasons for comments made. They can mostly be ignored, unless you want to know exactly where a quote comes from. On occasion however, they give fuller details about why he has given a particular opinion, what there is to back up the opinion, and/or additional information. For instance, assuming we're same page numbering, on page 10, about 2/3rds down, you'll find mention of Love Me Do, at the end of that paragraph, you'll see the number 21. If you go to page 841, and look at Note 21, you'll see additional comments.

Yay! Got through that without saying anything!

Didn't think I'd make it!

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11 October 2013
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mja6758 said
Assuming the copy you have is the same as the UK version, making the last page number, on the last page of the index, 946, then - assuming the "Deluxe" doesn't totally surprise - it refers to the Notes that begin on page 841. As you read the main text, you will notice - in upper case - numbers occasionally appears, these refer to sources for/reasons for comments made. They can mostly be ignored, unless you want to know exactly where a quote comes from. On occasion however, they give fuller details about why he has given a particular opinion, what there is to back up the opinion, and/or additional information. For instance, assuming we're same page numbering, on page 10, about 2/3rds down, you'll find mention of Love Me Do, at the end of that paragraph, you'll see the number 21. If you go to page 841, and look at Note 21, you'll see additional comments.

Yay! Got through that without saying anything!

Didn't think I'd make it!

Cheers - so they are not missing from the UK version as suggested on about page 17 of this thread, so it looks like the two standard editions are the same after all?

 

11 October 2013
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Difficult to know without page dimensions. If the US is on a larger page, that would swallow the additional material Lewisohn has said has gone into it, with a little more extra text explaining slighty longer notes. I think the page difference could be explained by a slightly larger page format - after all, it does come in with fewer numbered pages, which is hard to explain if they are identical...

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11 October 2013
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mja6758 said
Difficult to know without page dimensions. If the US is on a larger page, that would swallow the additional material Lewisohn has said has gone into it, with a little more extra text explaining slighty longer notes. I think the page difference could be explained by a slightly larger page format - after all, it does come in with fewer numbered pages, which is hard to explain if they are identical...

Hmm - if my metric conversion is close they are fairly similar in size - maybe they will have a different font size?  :)

All too confusing for me.

 

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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but Amazon.com is now listing the deluxe Kindle edition (in two parts). The publication date is the same as the UK's (14 November):

Part one
Part two

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