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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn
23 September 2013
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cbatcu said

meanmistermustard said
At this rate I'm going to be 46 when V3 is finally out there!! Still books, might be a thing of the past and we wont have to pay a lot of money for the deluxe.

 

I'll be in my 6th decade of life if I live long enough to see V3. If not, I can ask George and John if they think Lewisohn is doing a good job. Too bad I won't have an internet connection so I could let you know their responses.
 
  

No need for internet then as I confidently predict a direct line will have been drawn up between the living and the dead which leaves no room for scepticism. New interviews with long term greats will be on Prime Time TV

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23 September 2013
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"The extended special edition of Mark Lewisohn's magisterial book Tune In is a true collector's item, featuring hundreds of thousands of words of extra material, as well as many extra photographs. Designed, printed and bound in Great Britain, this high-quality edition consists of two beautifully produced individual hardbacks printed on New Langely Antique Wove woodfree paper, with red-and-white head and tail bands and red ribbon marker. The two books will sit within a specially designed box and lid featuring soft touch and varnish finishes. The whole product comes shrinkwrapped for extra protection."

 

As well as a Beatles fan I'm a bibliophile and (amateur) book collecter, so this description really gets the juices flowing. Sounds amazing.

However, I just can't get away from the niggling worry that such gorgeous frills will be ruined - or at least greatly undermined - by the God-awful 'Word Art' cover. :-s   I mean, it ain't cheap.

25 September 2013
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I tend to take off dust jackets when I'm reading hardback books, so they don't get creased and crumpled. Tune In, without its dust jacket, actually looks quite classy. I'm tempted to leave it that way.

Quick update. The press embargo has now lifted, but I've only read 250 pages (I'm doing what I can, I promise). I'm not going to rush out a review before it's ready, and I don't want to drop a load of spoilers here to ruin it for everyone. I suppose I can be a bit more forthcoming if anyone has specific questions though.

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25 September 2013
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Remember, Joe, there is a thread for spoilers.

I have one question, the one that most have had since Lewisohn's first comment about it, and would ask you to post your reply in the "spoilers" thread if you respond, could you give a precis of how they got signed to EMI?

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25 September 2013
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Joe said
I tend to take off dust jackets when I'm reading hardback books, so they don't get creased and crumpled. Tune In, without its dust jacket, actually looks quite classy. I'm tempted to leave it that way.

Quick update. The press embargo has now lifted, but I've only read 250 pages (I'm doing what I can, I promise). I'm not going to rush out a review before it's ready, and I don't want to drop a load of spoilers here to ruin it for everyone. I suppose I can be a bit more forthcoming if anyone has specific questions though.

Just out of interest - what stage are you up to in the story? And without wishing to pre-empt your review, based on what you've read so far, would you describe the book as having been "written with energy, style, objectivity and insight"? Sorry if that's a slightly random question!

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25 September 2013
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250 pages is 1959, roughly the opening of the Casbah Coffee Club. Yes, it's written with a lot of style, energy etc, though to be honest I occasionally find Lewisohn's fondness for punning and wordplay a little annoying. I'll say more when I write my review. As for objectivity and insight, this book has it in spades.

I'll hop over to the spoilers thread now.

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25 September 2013
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Joe, how is the book divided up chapter-wise? Is the book divided into parts (i.e. does the table of contents contain Part 1, Part 2, etc., with the parts further divided into chapters) or is it just divided into chapters? Are the chapters of roughly equal lengths? And do the chapters have names or are they just numbered?

Also, is there a prologue, epilogue, etc.?

25 September 2013
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Joe, I'd love to know about the pictures in the book. Is there a generous selection? And are there many previously unseen pics, or particularly interesting one. Thanks.

26 September 2013
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Joe said

[snip] this high-quality edition consists of two beautifully produced individual hardbacks printed on New Langely Antique Wove woodfree paper, with red-and-white head and tail bands and red ribbon marker. The two books will sit within a specially designed box and lid featuring soft touch and varnish finishes. The whole product comes shrinkwrapped for extra protection.

Sounds like they're going down the Genesis route then. Here's some info I found about New Langely Antique Wove woodfree paper:

A premium woodfree antique bookwove paper with excellent optical characteristics, smooth surface, good porosity it is also wood and acid free so resistant to aging. Ideal for offset printing, silk screen printing, digital printing to produce hard and soft cover books, brochures, catalogues, business reports, product folders.

In library catalog records for books, after the ISBN you will often see comments about the physical characteristics of the book. For example 0487316589 (pbk.: alk. paper) or 0487316589 (hbk : acid free paper).

Well I came across one today that I have never seen in 17 years of being a librarian : 0817356908 (quality paper : alk. paper). QUALITY PAPER? WHAT? I immediately thought about the high quality paper that will be used in the deluxe edition of Lewisohn's book.

 

26 September 2013
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Joe said
I tend to take off dust jackets when I'm reading hardback books, so they don't get creased and crumpled. Tune In, without its dust jacket, actually looks quite classy. I'm tempted to leave it that way.

Quick update. The press embargo has now lifted, but I've only read 250 pages (I'm doing what I can, I promise). I'm not going to rush out a review before it's ready, and I don't want to drop a load of spoilers here to ruin it for everyone. I suppose I can be a bit more forthcoming if anyone has specific questions though.

Sorry for being a bit off-topic, I always take the dust jackets off books - just wondering what I should now do with 2 stacks of the things?  :)

 

26 September 2013
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Tinmanic, Father McCartney, hopefully this covers most of your questions. I posted some of it on the Steve Hoffman forum last night.

There's a 12-page intro, a page on the pre-decimal British money system (pounds, shillings and pence), and a 12-page prologue. After that it starts from page 1, and has a total of 946 numbered pages. The narrative ends at page 840; after that there are notes (841-902), an appeal for info (903), credits (904-914), and the index (915-946).

The day that John met Paul has a chapter to itself, just seven pages long. It's by far the shortest chapter; others are much longer.

The basic structure is: part one, 19th century to 1957; then five more parts for each of the years 1958-1962. Each part contains multiple chapters. Chapters and parts each have names (eg "Where are we going, Johnny?").

There are three photo sections, each containing eight pages. Most of the pics are fairly well known; I presume they're holding back the previously unseen ones for the deluxe. A new pic of John and Paul from 1961 that's been published in newspapers isn't in the standard edition.

marklewisohn.net is now live btw, but just a holding page.

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26 September 2013
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Thanks, Joe.

I usually take dust-jackets off for reading. With my favourite books I protect them with clear book-covering material - perk of working in a library - which keeps them in A1 condition, and often improves the look to boot.

Wonder what's goin on in that photo - Lennon looks like Herman Munster!

26 September 2013
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Thanks for the great detail, Joe.

26 September 2013
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I've been discussing this with Joe off-forum. I, too, have an advance copy of the book and started reading it yesterday. About 50 pages in and so far, it's great. I thought I would be bored out of my mind reading about the 4 of them and their family histories from 1845 to their births, but to the contrary, I couldn't put the book down. It was only the late hour and the need to be up early for my morning run and then work that made me stop reading and go to bed. If this bit was that engaging, I am greatly looking forward to what comes next!

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26 September 2013
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I would just like to thank everyone for not posting spoilers all over the forum but keeping them in the Tune In spoilers thread. It might sound minor but go on some forums and folks cant go three minutes without blabbing something you're trying hard to avoid. So a huge warm thank you from me.heart  heartheart

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I'm avoiding the spoilers from the newspapers since I am working my way through the book right now. As for spoilers from the book itself, I had to sign a release form in order to get the advance copy for review, so I won't be offering up any myself other than vague mentions like I did above. But I am confident this is a book any serious Beatles fan will absolutely fucking love.

 

 

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26 September 2013
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Yeah, thanks everyone for keeping any info they have to that thread. I'm avoiding it like the plague as I want the book to be full of surprises and new info when I get it.

Glad that you're enjoying it, Dr Beatle!

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DrBeatle said
I've been discussing this with Joe off-forum. I, too, have an advance copy of the book and started reading it yesterday. About 50 pages in and so far, it's great. I thought I would be bored out of my mind reading about the 4 of them and their family histories from 1845 to their births, but to the contrary, I couldn't put the book down. It was only the late hour and the need to be up early for my morning run and then work that made me stop reading and go to bed. If this bit was that engaging, I am greatly looking forward to what comes next!

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The Beatles Biography website has had a major makeover:

http://www.thebeatlesbiography.com/

 

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27 September 2013
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From reading what Mark wrote, it appears books 2 and 3 aren't even written yet, and he's still doing research for them! 8O So much for the theory that volumes 2 and 3 will follow in successive years :lol: He mentions volume 1 took 10 years to research and write. By that reckoning, I'll be 53 by the time volume 3 is released.

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